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Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Friday, 16th December 2011
This may well be the last opportunity I have to ask for help on this board.
On the 1911 census I have located the following:
Frank Eborall Age 25, born Stratford on Avon, with wife, Lilian Edith Eborall Age 26, born London. Also their daughter Kathleen Edith Age 2.
Their marriage was 1907, in Stratford - Lilian's mn given as Perrioe.
I am trying to trace Frank and Lilian back through their respective families. Would be grateful if someone has time to look for me.
Thank you.
FS
Frank -
Name: Frank Eborall
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Eborall
Mother's Name: Louisa Eborall
Gender: Male
Where born: Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Old Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stratford On Avon
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Stratford On Avon
Sub-registration district: Stratford on Avon
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2478
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Eborall 39
Louisa Eborall 40
Edward Eborall 16
Lilian Eborall 14
Helen Eborall 12
William Eborall 10
Frank Eborall 5
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2478; Folio 9; Page 11; GSU roll: 6097588
Name: Edward Eborall
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa Ann Eborall
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Old Stratford
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 11 Ryland Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Carpenter & Joiner
Registration district: Stratford Upon Avon
Sub-registration district: Old Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3103
Folio: 44
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Eborall 29
Louisa Ann Eborall 30
Edward Eborall 6
Lilian Eborall 4
Ellen Eborall 2
William Eborall
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3103; Folio: 44; Page: 13; GSU roll: 1341739.
Name: Edward Eborell
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Stratford On Avon
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stratford On Avon
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stratford Upon Avon
Sub-registration district: Stratford On Avon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 3205
Folio: 51
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
William Powell 62
Jane Powell 61
Sarah Powell 33
Ann Powell 30
Edward Eborell 19 Carpenters assistant
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3205; Folio: 51; Page: 10; GSU roll: 839258.
1861
Name: Edward Eborall
Age: 10 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel Eborall
Mother's Name: Eleanor Eborall
Gender: Male
Where born: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Solihull
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image
Registration district: Solihull
Sub-registration district: Solihull
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 2216
Folio: 31
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Eborall 34 Threshing machine feeder
Eleanor Eborall 34
Rosa Eborall 8
Edward Eborall 10 MO
John Clarke 64
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2216; Folio: 31; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542937.
, in reply to message 5.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Think Lilian's surname has been wrongly transcribed for the marriage
Name: Lilian Edith Perrior
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 27 Aug 1884
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1885
Father's Name: William Thomas Perrior - wood carrier
Mother's Name: Sarah Perrior
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
Took their time registering her
Name: Lilian Edith Perrior
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1884
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 130a
Now to find them on censuses - very likely candidate for mistranscribing
, in reply to message 6.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Aoplogies - he;s a wood CARVER
A sibling
Name: Elizabeth Dora Perior
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1880
Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1880
Father's Name: William Thomas Perior
Mother's Name: Sarah Perior
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
Parents marriage
Name: William Thomas Perrior
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Spouse Name: Sarah Marie Attwood
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Feb 1875
Parish: Lewisham St Mary
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Thomas Perrior deceased butcher
Spouse Father Name: Solomon Attwood deceased labourer
Register Type: Parish Register
Father's birth
Name: William Thomas Perrior
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1849
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 361
and death/will
Name: William Thomas Perrior
Probate Date: 13 Mar 1923
Death Date: 12 Feb 1923
Death Place: Stratford-Upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England
Registry: London
Executors frank Eborall brewer and Walter Charles Gibbs confectioner. Left Β£565
, in reply to message 7.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Think this is them in 1881 - William is a wood carver. Address as per Elizabeth Dora's baptism. Also explains the link to Stratford
Name: Sarah M. Perrin [Sarah M. Perrier]
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William J. Perrin
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldington, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 40 Wellesley Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 215
Folio: 31
Page Number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
William J. Perrin 31
Sarah M. Perrin 28
William L. Perrin 5
Sarah dies in 1886 - William remarries ni 1888
Name: Sarah Marie Perrior
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1886
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 110
, in reply to message 8.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
1891 - William and second wife plus William junior. Not sure where Lilian is. ELizabeth Dora died 1881
Name: William L Perrior
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William T Perrior
Mother's Name: Mary A Perrior
Gender: Male
Where born: Somers Town, London, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 91
Folio: 109
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
William T Perrior 41
Mary A Perrior 26
William L Perrior 15
, in reply to message 9.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Aha - found her on 1901. Think the image says neice. She's a confectioner's assistant - all the family in the trade. Presumably this is the same Gibbs family as William's executor. William junior is also in Stratford with his wife Forence, whom he married in London
Name: Lillian E Parrior
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Wintosh Town, London, England [Kentish Town]
Civil parish: Old Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stratford On Avon
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stratford on Avon
Sub-registration district: Stratford on Avon
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 2938
Folio: 137
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Gibler 53
Eliza A Gibbs 52
Eliza Gibbs 25
Lillian E Parrior 16
Rose Gardner 17
, in reply to message 10.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Also there in 1891. Not sure what the connection is - Eliza's maiden name appears to be Eastbury
Name: Lilian Rerior
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Kentish Town, London, England
Civil parish: Stratford On Avon
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stratford On Avon
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stratford On Avon
Sub-registration district: Stratford on Avon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2477
Folio: 54
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Gibbs 43
Eliza Gibbs 42
Walter Gibbs 19
Lizzie Gibbs 15
Edith Gibbs 14
Lilian Rerior 6
Sarah A Hall 27
, in reply to message 11.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
There must be a link. Here's 1881 and another Perrior
Also note the servant Mary A Neal b Quinton Gloucestershire. She becomes William Perrior's second wife
Name: Lydia Perrior
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Kentish Town, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Stratford On Avon
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Wood Street
Registration district: Stratford Upon Avon
Sub-registration district: Stratford On Avon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3100
Folio: 69
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Gibbs 33
Eliza Gibbs 32
Walter C. Gibbs 9
Eliza Gibbs 5
Edith Gibbs 4
Lydia Perrior 3
Mary A. Neal 16
Sadly Lydia dies young
Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
PERRIOR Lydia Ellen Pancras 1b 140
Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%)
Perrior Lydia Ellen 6 Pancras 1b 98
, in reply to message 12.
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 16th December 2011
I think the link may be that Sarah Perrior nee Attwood's father Solomon married an Amelia Gibbs
, in reply to message 13.
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Attwood Solomon Evesham 18 517>>>>>>>>>>>
BOTHERIDGE William Evesham 18 517
Edgington Elizabeth Ann Evesham 18 517
Gibbs Amelia Evesham 18 517 >>>>>>>>>>
HARDYMAN Moses Evesham 18 517
Higgins Emma Evesham 18 517
Knight John Evesham 18 517
Mason Ann Evesham 18 517
, in reply to message 13.
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Friday, 16th December 2011
I think the link I am looking for comes through the Gibbs family. I know they were confectioners in Stratford. I even know where the shop was (still there actually!)
FS
, in reply to message 15.
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Sunday, 18th December 2011
I have spent some time this weekend working back and forwards through the Gibbs line.
Charles Gibbs (age 4) is on the 1851 with his grandparents, Charles and Rebecca in Ebrington.
Amelia Gibbs (age 20) I think is on the 1841 in Broadway. By 1851 she is Amelia Atwood.
Going back, I cannot find the link between Charles and Amelia. I am assuming they are brother and sister, but so far have only found grandparents of Charles, which doesn't give me definite proof.
Could anyone help me any further? I would much appreciate it if someone could find that missing link.
FS
, in reply to message 16.
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 18th December 2011
Charles is still with his grandfather in 1851 census, so no help there , Charles and Amelia , brother and sister ? very large age gap if they are , wonder if they are mother/son ?
, in reply to message 17.
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Sunday, 18th December 2011
Charles is still with his grandfather in 1851 census, so no help there , Charles and Amelia , brother and sister ? very large age gap if they are , wonder if they are mother/son ? Β
Large gap - or a young mother? Interesting. I had assumed they were brother and sister because the Perrior girls (mentioned in messages 10,11,12) are given as Charles' nieces. I guess, technically that would also be correct if they were his great nieces!
I think I have located the registration of what could be Charles' birth, so may have to splash out on a cert. However, this is not a relative, just an interest enquiry really, to see what the connection was with the Eborall family! The certficate will tell me who his mother was - but if it is not Alice I am no nearer. Just can't see anything on Familysearch from parish records.
FS
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