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Message 1.Β
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Trying to find a Clara M Hinder birth/early life. All I have is a marriage entry for said Clara in Swindon Wilts in 1920 but I can't find a corresponding birth.
I have looked on the 1911 and there are a couple of candidates, one Swindon, one Middlesex but they both seem to be with husbands and babies.
I guess she could have been married before and Hinder isn't her birth name
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Message 2
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
There's this marriage ....
Name: William James Hinder
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Clara Mary Overall
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Apr 1909
Parish: Maida Hill
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Henry Hinder
Spouse Father Name: George Overall
Register Type: Parish Register
What do you think ?
STG -
Message 3
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
I have just checked on my 'ladies' who remarried. My Nan remarried in 1937 and it gives both names. Her husband mother remarried in 1923 at which time only her married name was given. So I suppose it could be one of the two found in 1911. Both are early twenties, so possible.
Looking for deaths may glean info.
Jo -
Message 4
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Have you found a death for her, and if so where and when ? I am thinking that should give a possible date of birth to help narrow the search.
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Message 5
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
And this for the other Clara M on 1911
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Culling Ernest Swindon 5a 9
HINDER Percy Swindon 5a 9
HISCOCKS Sarah Ellen Swindon 5a 9
Williams Clara May Swindon 5a 9
Jo -
Message 6
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Possible death for her in 1959 birth year 1888 but that's in Devon so not where I would expect.
The Clara May in Swindon looks promising but I couldn't see a death for Percy leaving her free to marry again, unless they divorced.
This is the 1920 marriage for info.
Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
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Hinchliffe Albert A Hinder Swindon 5a 15
Hinder Clara M Hinchliffe Swindon 5a 15 -
Message 7
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
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WILLIAMS Clara May Highworth 5a 13
Well that fits the death and the first marriage but what of husband number one.. -
Message 8
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
1911
HINDER, William James Head Married M 22 1889 Railway Engine Stoker Southwark Surrey
HINDER, Clara Mary Wife Married
2 years F 22 1889 Tottenham Middlesex
HINDER, William Henry Son M 1 1910 Willesden Middlesex
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Address:
92 Carlton Vale Kilburn Willesden N W County:
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Message 9
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Name: Percy Hinder
Birth Place: Swindon
Death Date: 7 Aug 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Swindon
Rank: Private
Regiment: Gloucestershire Regiment
Battalion: 12th (Service) (Bristol) Battalion
Number: 37880
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 37368, Worcestershire Regiment. -
Message 10
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Name: HINDER, PERCY
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gloucestershire Regiment
Unit Text: 12th Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 07/08/1917
Service No: 37880
Additional information: Son of William and Jessie Hinder, of Swindon; husband of Clara May Hinder, of 118, Chapel St., Gorse Hill, Swindon, Wilts.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: P. II. F. 7A.
Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY EXTENSION, ROUEN -
Message 11
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Oh no
but well done glenton thanks for finding him 
Can I ask if there are any other children born on the 1911 and the address they were living please? -
Message 12
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Tourmie,
He may be on Ruths website for Swindon Railway Volunteers
Edna -
Message 13
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
|Think this is him ,
Rank: PRIVATE
Initials: P
Birthplace: Swindon
Residence:
Enlisted: Swindon
Regiment, Corps etc.: Gloucestershire Regiment
Battalion etc.: 12th (Service) (Bristol) Battalion.
Raised at Bristol by the Citizens Recruiting Committee on 30.8.14. June 1915 to Wensley Dale joining 95th Bde. 32nd Div. 23.6.15 taken over by the War Office. Aug. 1915 to Salisbury Plain. 21.11.15 landed in France. 26.12.15 with 95th Bde. to 5th Div. Nov. 1917 to Italy with 5th Div. April 1918 returned to France with 5th Div. 19.10.18 disbanded in France.
Number: 37880
Date died: 7 August 1917
How died: Died
Theatre of war: France & Flanders
Supplementary Notes: FORMERLY 37368, WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT. -
Message 14
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
HINDER, Percy Head Married M 25 1886 Trimmer Labourer Wilts Swindon
HINDER, Clara May Regina Wife Married 5 years F 23 1888 Wilts Swindon
PERCIVAL, Queenie Mildred Relative Single F 13 1898 School Wilts Swindon
KENT, Elise Relative Single F 10 1901 School Wilts Swindon
HINDER, Jesmond Iris Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Swindon
There is another daughter Vera crossed out. She has died I think as it states 2 births, one living. -
Message 15
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
1911
HINDER, Percy Head Married M 25 1886 Trimmer Labourer Wilts Swindon
HINDER, Clara May Regina Wife Married
5 years F 23 1888 Wilts Swindon
PERCIVAL, Queenie Mildred Relative Single F 13 1898 School Wilts Swindon
KENT, Elise Relative Single F 10 1901 School Wilts Swindon
HINDER, Jesmond Iris Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Wilts Swindon
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Address:
118 Chapel St Gorse Hill Swindon County:
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Message 16
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Vera Phyllis E Hinder
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1907
Registration district: Swindon
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 42
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Vera Phyllis E Hinder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Swindon
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 19 -
Message 17
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Vera Phyllis E Hinder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Swindon
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 19 -
Message 18
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Thank you everyone, so much more information than I had this morning
Yes I see little Vera born 1907 died 1909 bless her. I wonder if there were more born after 1911.. -
Message 19
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
a son, sad that he most likely grew up, possibly not remembering his father
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
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HINDER Reginald W C Williams Swindon 5a 28
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