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The first Mrs Bury.

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  Posted by Jak (U1158529) on Tuesday, 29th November 2011

  Edward Bury, born 1794 in Salford, Lancs, was married in 1830 to a Miss Falkner.
  
  He was then a widower, his first wife having died in childbirth - the baby died too. But I'm trying to find out who his first wife was. Any suggestions or advice would be welcome.

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  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Tuesday, 29th November 2011

  Familysearch has these two same marriage so it may be two of the same church under both names, or the are the cheshire Prs Scroll down until you see them and they are the actual registers and you may need to sign in and trawl through them in date order
  
  Edna
  
  spouse: Ann Royle
  
  groom's name: Edward Bury Or Berry
  bride's name: Ann Royle
  marriage date: 30 Aug 1822
  marriage place: Collegiate Church Manchester, Lancashire, England
  indexing project (batch) number: I04857-9
  system origin: England-EASy
  source film number: 1545582
  
  
  
  spouse: Ann Royle
  
  groom's name: Edward Bury
  bride's name: Ann Royle
  marriage date: 30 Aug 1822
  marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
  indexing project (batch) number: M00546-6
  system origin: England-ODM
  source film number: 438193

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

  hmm... me thinks you know more about this gentleman than you are letting on! there is even a picture of him!
  
  Just google the man and his 2nd wife's full name is there for all to see as she is also a well known person in her own right.
  
  I would also be interested in knowing how you know he was widowed without seeing his marriage entry in 1830 to "Miss" Faulkner? Its not mentioned anywhere else
  
  BTW her biography online is not quite correct, she had 3 sons not one
  
  marriage
  Name: Edward Bury
  Gender: Male
  Spouse's Name: Priscilla Susan Faulkner
  Marriage Date: 4 Mar 1830
  Marriage Place: Walton On The Hill, Lancashire, England
  
  
  1851
  Edward Dean Falkner married 54 stock broker Walton Lances
  Mary Wm Falkner 60 sister
  Edward Bury 56 civil engineer manchester
  Sarah Jones 30 serv
  Jane Morriner 50 serv
  Mary Ellison 23 serv
  James Sturdie 21 serv
  
  1851 Northaw Hertfordshire
  Pricilla S Bury head 51 engineers wife Walton East Lancs
  Percilla Susan Paileton AUNT 75 baronets widow London
  Jane Newson 36 serv
  Jane Freeman 23 serv
  Alice Newson 27 serv
  Jane E Francesco Franke 28 serv
  Thomas Bligh 56 serv
  Heather Oulton 24 serv
  
  probate
  17 APr The will with a Codicil of Priscilla Susan Bury late of Fairfield Thornton Heath in the county of Surrey,
  Widow, who died 8 Mar 1872 at Fairfied was proved at the Principle Registry by Edwad James Bury of Scarborough in
  the county of York, Esquire and William Tarleton Bury of Sheffield in the County of York, manufacturer the sons
  the Executors
  Effects under Β£8000
  (William was a Steel Manufacturer according to his probate in 1876)
  
  sons
  Name: William Tarleton Bury
  Gender: Male
  Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Mar 1835
  Baptism/Christening Place: St. Mary's, Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, England
  Birth Date: 12 Jan 1835
  Father's Name: Edward Bury
  Mother's Name: Priscilla Susan Bury
  Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02432-8
  System Origin: England-EASy
  Source Film Number: 1647560
  Reference Number: item 5 p 198
  
  Name: Edward James Bury
  Gender: Male
  Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Jun 1833
  Baptism/Christening Place: St. Mary's, Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, England
  Birth Date: 05 May 1833
  Father's Name: Edward Bury
  Mother's Name: Priscilla Susan Bury
  Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02432-8
  System Origin: England-EASy
  Source Film Number: 1647560
  Reference Number: item 5 p 179
  
  Name: George Frederick Bury
  Gender: Male
  Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Dec 1831
  Baptism/Christening Place: St. Mary's, Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, England
  Birth Date: 21 Oct 1831
  Father's Name: Edward Bury
  Mother's Name: Priscilla Susan Bury
  Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02372-9
  System Origin: England-EASy
  Source Film Number: 1647560
  Reference Number: item 5 p 163
  
  In 1841 both 2 youngest boys are at school in West Derby, parents are not apparent
  
  Going back to Edwards earlier profession of Timber merchant, a business he appears to have inherited from his father John Bury...
  "Edward Bury was born in Salford, Lancashire, the son of a timber merchant, and was educated at Chester. "
  By 1823 he was a partner in Gregson & Bury's steam sawmill at (Pack-saw mill) Toxteth Park, Liverpool, this partnership was disolved in January 1826, Matthew Gregson carried on the timber business without Edward Bury. John Bury had died sometime before 1824
  
  Given the Liverpool location, you might want to concider the following substancial marriage:
  marriage announcement
  Liverpool Mercury etc (Liverpool, England), Friday, October 20, 1826 Issue 804
  Edward Bury of this town to Isabella, eldest daughter of the late Joseph Matthews Esq of Wavertree
  
  Name: Edward Bury
  Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1826
  Parish: Liverpool St Philip
  Spouse's Name: Isabella Matthews
  
  I can't find a death announcement for a Mrs Bury
  
  Edwards obit
  The Morning Chronicle (London, England), Friday, December 3, 1858
  On the 25th ult, at Scarborough, Edwrd Bury Esq, of Croft Lodge, Windermere age 66
  This makes him a shade older than everyone on the web has him!

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

  I think I rmember Edna posting info on a Liverpool site somewhere but I can't find it and didn't save the link as it wasn't relevant to my personal research.

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

  This looks possible - the address is Walton on the Hill, as with his second marriage
  
  Name: Edward Bury
  Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1826
  Parish: Liverpool St Philip
  Spouse's Name: Isabella Matthews
  
  The offiiciant was a William Bury and witness Joseph Matthews and JOhn Bourney [?]

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

  This could be her baptism
  
  Name: Isabella Matthews
  Birth Date: 6 Nov 1797
  Age: 0
  Baptism Date: 8 Feb 1798
  Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
  Father's Name: Joseph Matthews
  
  Address is Great George St
  Father a merchant
  Mother Margaret nee Nelson
  

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  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

  
  
  
  
  I think this is the link you were looking for jc it has Roman Catholic BMDs
  
  or
  
  snippets of news
  
  or
  
  
  
  Edna

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  Posted by Jak (U1158529) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

  Having heard about the first Mrs Bury from a vague anecdotal account from a relative, and having done a bit of digging without getting anywhere, I put my query on this board without much hope of any response. So I am overwhelmed by the speed of the replies, the amount of material you have found, and the amount you have taken the trouble to transcribe.
  
  You have saved me hours of work and long trips to Manchester and Liverpool - all of which might have been useless in any event, given my inexperience.
  
  I am very, very, grateful to all of you for your help.

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