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Message 1.Β
Posted by mandy (U14721355) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Hi, Am looking laods some help.
Ive decided to look up my great grandma and great grandad Scott.
Only thing is, i have no family members to ask any questions.
Only thing i know is that my Great-Grandad used to sell the sheffield star in sheffield city centre.
I dont know either names of them.
The odd few things i know is
They lived at 123 dryden road sheffield
they had 2 boys and twin daughters and another daughter
there names are Alan, Walter, Vera ,Brenda and sheila.
Sheila and brenda was twins.
My Great-grandma died in 76.
I know that this isnt much to go on, and maybe i'll not get very far.
but it would be much appreciated. -
Message 2
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Hi mandy
If you could give us a time it might help, like roughly when their children were born ie 1920's, 1940's? Or how how old your great grandma was when she died. -
Message 3
Posted by mandy (U14721355) on Monday, 14th November 2011
I think she had her children between 1929 to 1936
My nan was born 29 sept 1931, i dont know if she was the eldest of all the children , and my nan died april this year.
she may been in her 70's when she died.
I know my great grandma wa burried at city rd .
i know its not much to go on. -
Message 4
Posted by silvery (U8422462) on Monday, 14th November 2011
And what was the name of your gran?
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Message 5
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Which one was your nan - Vera, Brenda or Sheila?
We all start with a little bit of information and hopefully can then expand on it. -
Message 6
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
that must have been vera...
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Message 7
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
scott deaths in sheffield 1976
Florence Christina Scott 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec 1976 Sheffield South Yorkshire
Alice Scott 1903 Jan-Feb-Mar 1976 Sheffield South Yorkshire
Vera Scott 1904 Apr-May-Jun 1976 Sheffield South Yorkshire -
Message 8
Posted by silvery (U8422462) on Monday, 14th November 2011
When you start to make your family tree, start with yourself and then your parents with your mother's maiden name (mmn), then do the same with your grandparents with the maiden names as well. And so on down the years.
Along the way you may need to get birth and/or marriage certificates to verify names and dates.
So, it sounds as if Scott was your grandmother's maiden name. ?
What was your grandmother's first name? Just so that we can look it up to verify her name, what was the name of your grandfather? -
Message 9
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Monday, 14th November 2011
I can't find any matching births for twins between those dates ie with same mothers maiden name
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Message 10
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
neither can I tourmie... I looked for all Yorkshire not just sheffield.
I agree with Silvery, its not impossible to get back but you do need to at least see or buy certs which means starting with you then your parents then grandparents.
I suggest you look at freebmd.org.uk and look for your parents and see what is there, then your grandparents.
You can then use the index information given to order the certificate from the gro
www.gro.gov.uk Each cert costs Β£ 9.25 -
Message 11
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
there is a Brenda a Diane e who were twins but its a bit later than you were describing with a sister called Vera but she was born 1932. there is also an Alan with the same mother's maiden name
couldn't see Walter unless he was born before the marriage
mmn Emerson (Emmerson) -
Message 12
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
this is possibly the parents marriage
Marriages Dec 1929
Emerson Vera Scott Sheffield 9c 1362 <<<<<
Hobson Rose M Mason Sheffield 9c 1362
Mason Harold Hobson Sheffield 9c 1362
Scott Ernest Emerson Sheffield 9c 1362 <<<<<
but I strongly suggest before buying or agreeing this is the right marriage, you work back to your grandmother and obtain her marriage cert to see who is her father and her age at marriage.
see above - there was a Vera Scott death registered April-May-June 1976 Sheffield. Birth year 1904
possible birth
Births Dec 1904
Emerson Vera Ecclesall B 9c 378 -
Message 13
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
ps Vera was registered Oct-Nov-Dec 1932 so could be your gran. Its possible, unless you have seen her birth cert that the family didn't really know here real age.
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Message 14
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Looking for Walter...
I found a Walter Scott b earlier with mmn Hurst Ecclesall B
his parents were Fred Scott and Ellen Hurst, I'm wondering if your ggrandparents took in Walter for some reason or other.
You would need to find out if Ernest Scott and Fred Scott were related.
Sorry if I sound vague on dates and places but there is every chance some of these people are still living and we are not allowed to put personal data of living people on here.
You can double check on freebmd with what I have given you -
Message 15
Posted by mandy (U14721355) on Monday, 14th November 2011
my great grandfarther was called Ernest scott he died on the 15 april 1960 aged 54
my greatgrandma vera scott died 27 may 1976 aged 71.
there son earnest died aged 59 in 1989.
i may have got the twins mixed up, i think it was my nan-nan wright ( vera scott )
(ernest and vera's daughter ) were a twin to sheila.
i know its not alot to go on. but ive just been up to the grave to get that information -
Message 16
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Think this is Sheila - so not Vera's twin
Name: Sheila Scott
Mother's Maiden Surname: Emmerson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 506 -
Message 17
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Monday, 14th November 2011
This is Sheila's twin
Name: Maureen Scott
Mother's Maiden Surname: Emmerson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 507
and why you don;t know about her
Name: Maureen Scott
Birth Date: abt 1937
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 488
There are two others you;ve not metioned - Ernest b 1930 and Hetty b 1934 -
Message 18
Posted by mandy (U14721355) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011
I know my greatgrandma had some children that died,
but i didnt get any names,
as i was a young child when my nan was talking about her mum...
as my nan told me the story of "on her death bed" my greatgrandma died at home, on dryden rd.
And as she was dieing,she was talking to her dead children.
i just thought it was my nan trying to scare me.
This is getting very intreasting,
and thank you all for this infomation so far.
ive got loads of birth and death certs to buy. -
Message 19
Posted by freelunch (U10883873) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011
Emerson is an easier name to trace than Scott, so looking at your gt grandmother line, the following people LOOK promising - the certificates will confirm or otherwise.
In 1911, a Vera Emerson aged 6 was living with her grandmother Emma at Darnall in Sheffield. Emma's son George is living next door with his wife and two children so it does not look as if George is Vera's father. However, Willie Gowsell Emerson is living in the 1901 family home with wife and two daughters- but they have three living children so it is likely that they are Vera's parents.
Emma was born Emma Gowsell at Yaddlethorpe ( Scunthorpe) in 2nd qr 1853. Family :
Thomas Gowsell 57
Jane Gowsell 51
George Gowsell 22
Rebecca Gowsell 19
Charles Gowsell 12
Emma Gowsell 8
She married John Fenton 3rd qr 1870 (reg area Glanford Brigg) and had two sons, Charles and George. John died 1st qr 1876 so she remarried to Matthew Henry Emerson 4th qr 1877. They had at least 4 children - George, Willie, Annie and Arthur - it is possible that Annie was Vera's mother but my guess is that Vera was Willie's daughter.
Derek
PS - can anyone find Emma in 1881? -
Message 20
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011
Mandy, if you are local to Sheffield then it might be worth your while to see if the local library has a section local archives section. Many contain the microfilm of the local parish records but do check the dates they hold, they might not go up to the dates you are looking for. You can then look for the marriage and baptisms. It would save you quite a bit of money rather then send off for the certs. As you know the area, you probably have a good idea which church they married in.
See the marriage entry will give you the name of Vera and Ernest's fathers. It will help to go back even further.
Also, while at the library, ask if you can use one of their public computers to look at Ancestry. You can do a birth search for the name Scott 1929 - 1945 with a mothers maiden name of Emerson or EMMERSON in Sheffield registration district. -
Message 21
Posted by freelunch (U10883873) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011
1881 - found "Henery and Emmah Emerson" at Ecclesfield .
The joys of transcription !
Derek -
Message 22
Posted by freelunch (U10883873) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011
Mandy
Re message 18 - the Sheffield Indexers site contains many BMD records including the burial of Maureen Scott on Sept 27th 1937 at City Rd cemetery - age 3 months , dau of Ernest Scott. There is also record of a stillborn child from the same address (11 Hague St) buried Apr 4th 1936.
These were probably on your gt grandma's mind - I remember my grandma never forgot the baby she lost.
Derek
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