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WW1 War service Records

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  Posted by SpecialNeedsGirl (U14270238) on Sunday, 13th November 2011

  I certainly live up to my name - Special Needs!!
  
  I have just trawlled through n early 2000 'Phillips' surnames looking for the service records of my husband's grandfather on A***y using the free WW1 records. (I don't know if I can access them after thus weekend even though I subscribe to AY)
  
  and his gt gt uncle 'Jones'
  
  I successfully found their medal cards about a year ago but that took some time.
  
  Can anyone locate the Service Records for either men?
  
  GRIFFITH JOHN PHILLIPS, SERVICE NUMBER : 1108891
  
  REUBEN EVAN JONES, SERVICE NUMBER : 9635
  
  Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
  
  Many thanks
  
  SNG

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  Posted by michael_henderson (U15026923) on Sunday, 13th November 2011

  There is a strong possibility they may not have survived. More than half the records were destroyed by fire during the WW2 Blitz.
  I can't find my great-uncle's records, though I'd dearly love to. Strangely, I found his brother's war records and another brother's medal card, but that still leaves gt-uncle, who was killed, and 3 other brothers!

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  Posted by SpecialNeedsGirl (U14270238) on Sunday, 13th November 2011

  Yes I know a lot of the records were lost in WW2.
  
  Its awfully odd though that every name I search for appears not to be there!!
  
  We found out through the Commonwealth War Graves that Reuben died in a battle in the Somme. His name is on the Mennin Gate.
  
  We went to Cardiff yesterday to see if we could find Reuben Jones's name on the war memorial there. It appears there was no mention of him there either!!
  
  It become very frustrating when time is spent searching only to find very little or nothing.
  
  Thanks for your help.
  best wishes
  SNG

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  Posted by Pheno (U14601115) on Monday, 14th November 2011

  There is this in the Silver War Badge records on A****try
  
  Name: Griffith Phillips
  Discharge Unit: Depot South Wales Borderers New Army
  Regiment Number: 4/14143
  Rank: Pte.
  Badge Number: 183338
  Unit: Infantry (Shrewsbury)
  Piece: 3089
  List Number: J 0401-0800
  Record Group: WO
  Record Class: 329
  
  Date of enlistment 1/9/1914
  Date of discharge 16/4/1917 due to wounds
  
  Served overseas
  
  Couldn't pin down a record for Reuben Jones though.
  
  Pheno

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  Posted by Pheno (U14601115) on Monday, 14th November 2011

  I guess Reuben won't be recorded as this is only a list of those discharged due to wounds or sickness - it won't feature those killed in action.
  
  Pheno

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  Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011

  
  
  Hang on a minute!
  
  We found out through the Commonwealth War Graves that Reuben died in a battle in the Somme. His name is on the Mennin Gate.Β 
  
  Now then. If he was killed on the Somme (in FRANCE) and has no known grave, his name will be on the Thiepval Memorial.
  
  The Menin Gate is in Ypres (in Flanders,BELGIUM) and commemorates those killed there who have no known grave. I've just found him on the CWGC website, and Menin Gate is correct, so he was killed in one of the Ypres battles

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011

  As you know the date he died and his regiment, you could try the war despatches at the National Archives to find out where the Welsh regiment was on that day. He may even get a mention.

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