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Message 1.Β
Posted by carols (U15034186) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
Can anyone out there possibly help me?
My father recently told me that he remembers certain details being told to him about his late fathers service during the war but, to date, I have had no joy in obtaining any records relating to him. What we know is:
Name: Albert Leslie MAUDE
D.O.B. April 1898
Place of Birth and Residence: Halifax, Yorkshire
We know that he volunteered to join the army, not sure what regiment.
He sailed on the SS Norman to South Africa in 1912, although this would make him only 14! He was a Marconi Radio Operator on board.
He was blown up and gassed but we don't know any other details.
He joined the Royal Flying Corp in it's early days.
He died in 1930 in Halifax -
Message 2
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
They did join up young then
This may be him
Name: Albert Maude
Medal or Award: Victory Medal, British War Medal
Service Year: 1914-1920
Service Location: Europe
Campaign or Service: World War I
Service Number: J 50295
Signaller on HMS Carysfort
This is Albert on 1901
Name: Albert L Maude
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Maude
Mother's Name: Ellen Louisa Maude
Gender: Male
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: Halifax St Augustine
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Piece: 4123
Folio: 110
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Maude 28
Ellen Louisa Maude 30
Gladys Maude 6
Albert L Maude 4
Harry Maude 11 Months
He may have got the sea bug young - Henry and family went to Canada when Albert was young. This is the return trip - definitely the same family, as same children and father's occupation (plumber)
Name: Albert L Maude
Port of Departure: Portland, Oregon, United States
Arrival Date: 21 Jan 1907
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Portland
Ship Name: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Dominion Line
Official Number: 106806 -
Message 3
Posted by carols (U15034186) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
Thank you so much for your quick reply. The journey to and from US is totally new to us. I am stuggling to find the record though. I Googled "Passenger Ships and Images" which led me to Ancestry.co.uk. I have purchased some credits but when I found "Canada" all I can see is a photo. Sorry to be a bit slow but I am new to this!
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Message 4
Posted by carols (U15034186) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
They did join up young then
This may be him
Name: Albert Maude
Medal or Award: Victory Medal, British War Medal
Service Year: 1914-1920
Service Location: Europe
Campaign or Service: World War I
Service Number: J 50295
Signaller on HMS Carysfort
This is Albert on 1901
Name: Albert L Maude
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Maude
Mother's Name: Ellen Louisa Maude
Gender: Male
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: Halifax St Augustine
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Piece: 4123
Folio: 110
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Maude 28
Ellen Louisa Maude 30
Gladys Maude 6
Albert L Maude 4
Harry Maude 11 Months
He may have got the sea bug young - Henry and family went to Canada when Albert was young. This is the return trip - definitely the same family, as same children and father's occupation (plumber)
Name: Albert L Maude
Port of Departure: Portland, Oregon, United States
Arrival Date: 21 Jan 1907
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Portland
Ship Name: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Dominion Line
Official Number: 106806 Β Oh! Forget that last message - I have found the transscript and we are dumb founded. My Dad had no idea about this journey. Any idea how I go about finding their outward journey. You are a star *** -
Message 5
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Ancestry - Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Albert Maude
Arrival Date: 26 Sep 1906
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ivernia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Harmon Richardson (Uncle)
Last Residence: Scotland (transcription error... should read Halifax)
the same family as found by Mabel
if you have any credits let....
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Message 6
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Thanks JC - I haven;t got access to that resource on my Ancestry sub. Had a look on the free Find My Past search but can;t see them so assuke they are mistranscribed
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Message 7
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
another possible Medal index, which I think is more likely as this one also received a Silver War Badge (given to those that were injured or sick). If Albert was gassed and severely injured then he is very likely to have received one and a pension, though I can't see a pension record for him
Name: Albert L Maude
Regiment or Corps: Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: 15816
Victory Medal
British Medal
SWB - RFC/223
looking at the SWB entry on ancestry, I think it confirms its the right one
Name: Albert Leslie Maude
Discharge Unit: R.F.C.
Regiment Number: 15816
Rank: 1/A.M.
Badge Number: 349011
Unit: Royal Flying Corps (Farnborough)
Piece: 3244
List Number: RFC 0001-0398
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329
says he was 21 years and 3 months when he was discharged 11 Mar 1918
he enlisted 17 Dec 1914 -
Message 8
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
going back to the original post stating that Albert was on the SS Norman in 1912
that was pre-war and would have been Merchant seaman. 14 Seems a little young to be a marconi operator but then maybe he was a very bright boy. I do wonder why then he changed from merchant seaman to Royal Flying corp, unless of course he really wanted to be an airman, obviously intelligent enough!
I would have thought he would have proudly told his son he was in the RFC
Merchant seamen records are at the National Archives... I did a quick search but his name didn't come up. You might want to have another look though. -
Message 9
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Not sure how Harmon Richardson is related - Henry Maude married Ellen Louida Stawman in Halifax Q2 1894
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Message 10
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
On the record it says H Richardson (uncle) who lives at the save town as the Maudes are going to be staying....
I'll go and do a quick check on the Canadian census -
Message 11
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
I meant the US Fed census, couldn't find Killery ME anywhere so looked for Richardson in Maine from England and came up with this, its a transcription error again and should read RICHARDSON
1900 US Fed census
Name: Henry Richards
[Henry Richardson]
[Henry Richard]
Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ in 1900: Portland, Cumberland, Maine
[Portland, Cumberland, Maine]
Age: 31
Birth Date: Nov 1868
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1894
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's Name: Alice C Richards
Marriage Year: 1890
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Henry Richards 31 born England
Alice C Richards 30 born England
William H Richards 7 born England
Alice M Richards 7months born maine
immigration year 1891
they live in KELLOGG STREET Portland, I'm wondering if the address was poorly written on the letter from Uncle Henry and by the time it got transcribed into the passenger list it turned from Kellogg to Killery
now to find them in england to see if its the right family -
Message 12
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Monday, 14th November 2011
If anyone with a FMP sub can take a look at the passenger lists leaving in England to see if there is anything to add to the above family leaving for Boston....
thanks -
Message 13
Posted by Pheno (U14601115) on Monday, 14th November 2011
I think this is what you want
passenger transcript details
Name: Henry RICHARDSON
Date of departure: 13 December 1894
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Portland, USA
Passenger destination: Portland, USA
Date of Birth:
Age: Adult
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Lab
Ship: POMERANIAN
Master's name: H Stirrat
Steamship Line: Allan Line
Where bound:Portland, USA
Registered tonnage: 2861
Passengers on voyage: 50
He is described as single though so maybe married in US.
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Message 14
Posted by Pheno (U14601115) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Although I think this is the detail to go with Henry Richards(on) I am not convinced that Henry is the Harmon referred to previously.
There are two Harman Richardson birth entries in Yorkshire around the right time: one Q2 1866 and the other Q2 1870.
Think I might do a bit more digging!
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Message 15
Posted by Pheno (U14601115) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Just to finish off there is a Harman Richardson born 1861 Halifax, Yorkshire, son of Henry Richardson and Elizabeth Bland in the 1861/1871/1881 & 1901 censuses but interestingly enough not appearing in 1891.
Wonder if this is any connection - being as he was born Halifax, Yorks.
Pheno -
Message 16
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011
1911
MAUDE, Henry Head Married M 38 1873 Plumber Halifax Yorks
MAUDE, Ellen Laura Wife Married
17 years F 40 1871 York Yorks
MAUDE, Gladys Daughter Single F 16 1895 Tailoress Halifax Yorks
MAUDE, Albert Leslie Son Single M 14 1897 School Halifax Yorks
MAUDE, Harry Son Single M 11 1900 School Halifax Yorks
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26487 Reference:
RG14PN26487 RG78PN1528B RD496 SD5 ED36 SN42
Registration District:
Halifax Sub District:
Halifax South Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
Halifax
Address:
16 Hanson Lane Halifax County:
Yorkshire (West riding)
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