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Message 1.Β
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Friday, 11th November 2011
Hi, please can someone look for Mary Overend born c1890 in Barnsley, possibly Kexborough and also George Bennett Turner born 1886 Barnsley, I think it may be Higham.
Thank you, Jen
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Message 2
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 11th November 2011
Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
TURNER JOSHUA M 1863 48
TURNER CHARLOTTE ELIZABETH F 1863 48
TURNER GEORGE BENNETT M 1886 25
TURNER CHARLES ERNEST M 1892 19
TURNER EARLE M 1894 17
TURNER FRANK M 1900 11
TURNER FLORANCE EMMA F 1903 8 -
Message 3
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 11th November 2011
Address Top Row, Woolley Colliery
George is an electric pumpman underground, b Higham
Parents married 26 yrs, 8 children, 2 deceased
Mother from Calne in Wilts -
Message 4
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Friday, 11th November 2011
Thank you Mabel, thats them, I recognise some of the names from family stories. Im surprised at the address - its where my mum and gran were evacuated to in 1940, it explains where my gran met my mum's step dad.
Thanks again
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Message 5
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
Could someone look for Mary Overend please, thanks.
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Message 6
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
would this be her ?
OVEREND, Jackson Head Married M 62 1849 Toolsmith Keighley Yorks
OVEREND, Sarah Jane Wife Married
37 years F 60 1851 Keighley Yorks
OVEREND, Mary Daughter Single F 20 1891 Typist Keighley Yorks
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26688 Reference:
RG14PN26688 RG78PN1539 RD498 SD1 ED14 SN253
Address:
29 Chellow St Bradford County:
Yorkshire (West riding) -
Message 7
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
Hi Jan, this is the family in 1901 if that helps
1891 England Census
about Mary Overend
Name: Mary Overend
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Overend
Mother's Name: Emma Overend
Gender: Female
Where born: Kexboro, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Kexbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: Darton
Town: Swithen Kexbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Cawthorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3783
Folio: 38
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Overend 53
Emma Overend 43
Joseph Overend 21
Frances Overend 18
William Overend 17
Arthur Overend 11
Thomas Overend 5
Mary Overend 1
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3783; Folio 38; Page 16; GSU roll: 6098893. -
Message 8
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
she shuoldn't be far from Woolley - given they married in June 1911 and she gives her address as Woolley Colliery (as per George). Father deceased, brother William a witness
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Message 9
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
Where did you get the info of the marriage from Mabel? I know they married June 1911 but thats all so thank you.
In 1901 they were in Darton which is the next village to Woolley Colliery, in fact WC is just at the end of the lane through Darton, its one of those places that you have to go to as you can't go through it. -
Message 10
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
A bit far , but wonder if this is her ........
LYNE, Richard Arundell Head Married M 40 1871 Clergyman Church Of England Middlesex Camden Town
LYNE, Cicely Joan Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 Hampshire Burghdere VIEW
LYNE, Joan Mary Daughter F 2 1909 Herefordshire Woolhope
LYNE, Richard Son M 1 1910 Herefordshire Woolhope
PRITCHARD, Annie Elizabeth Servant Single F 26 1885 Nurse Domestic Hereford Cradley
HAGGETT, Bessie Gwendoline Servant Single F 19 1892 Cook Domestic Gloucestershire Lydney
OVEREND, Mary Alice Servant Single F 19 1892 House Parlourmaid Domestic Yorkshire Rotherham >>>>>>>
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
15633 Reference:
RG14PN15633 RG78PN951 RD336 SD1 ED2 SN85
Registration District:
Ross Sub District:
Address:
The Vicarage Upton Bishop Ross Hereford County:
Herefordshire -
Message 11
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
Where did you get the info of the marriage from Mabel? I know they married June 1911 but thats all so thank you.
In 1901 they were in Darton which is the next village to Woolley Colliery, in fact WC is just at the end of the lane through Darton, its one of those places that you have to go to as you can't go through it.Β Mabel got it from here I assume , records are on Ance****
Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1922
about Mary Overend Name: Mary Overend
Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 3 Jun 1911
Parish: Woolley, St Peter
Father's Name: William Overend
Spouse's Name: George Bennett Turner
Spouse's Father's Name: Joshua Turner -
Message 12
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Saturday, 12th November 2011
Thanks, it means I definately have the right family in 1901, I don't know if the one in 1911 is her. Im just tying up lose ends with this one, she was George's first wife and Im descended from his second wife.
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Message 13
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
I searched the whole of Woolley Colliery yesterday looking for Mary Overend with father William as per the marriage cert on Anc*y but could not find her.
Found this at Number 42
OVEREND, William Head Married M 37 1874 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Yorks Darton
OVEREND, Sarah Ann Wife Married
13 years F 36 1875 Yorks Woolley
OVEREND, Annie Emma Daughter F 13 1898 None Yorks Darton
OVEREND, Hilda Daughter F 12 1899 School Yorks Darton
OVEREND, Edith Daughter F 9 1902 School Yorks Darton
OVEREND, Arthur Son M 7 1904 School Yorks Darton
OVEREND, Dorothy Muriel Daughter F 2 1909 Yorks Woolley
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27559 Reference:
RG14PN27559 RG78PN1577 RD507 SD1 ED15 SN140
Registration District:
Barnsley Sub District:
Darton Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Woolley
Address:
42 Woolley Colliery Barnsley County: >>>>>>>
Yorkshire (West riding)
Despite the transcription for George Bennett Turner the image gives his address as 32 Woolley Colliery, so just a few doors away.
If this Overend family can be linked to William, her father, perhaps she was staying there and she was just missed off the census.
I cannot see her at all in 1911 using variants.
Jo -
Message 14
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
Meant to say that William, Marys father appears to have died in 1908 aged 70 which matched with the 1901 census. This could mean that the William in 1911 bron 1874 could be a nephew of William born 1838 so would be Marys 1st Cousin.
Jo -
Message 15
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
Jo William on 1911 is mentioned in 1891 census as a son to William (1838) and brother to Mary 1891 census is mentioned in an earlier post ( can't recall which ) on this thread
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Message 16
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
See it now Bash, Message 7. So quite feasable that she was staying with her brother but not mentioned to the enumerator.
Jo -
Message 17
Posted by Drew Peacock (U9721337) on Sunday, 13th November 2011
Thank you both for looking, does the address for the Overends that you have found in Woolley Colliery just give Woolley Colliery as the address rather than either Top Row or Low Row?
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Message 18
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Monday, 14th November 2011
Neither George Bennet Turner at 32 Woolley Colliery, Darton, Barnsley or The Overends as 42 Woolley Colliery, nr Barnsley have Top or Low Row on the written image. Its just the transcribers have put Top Row for the Turners at No 32. The next image after the Turners at No 32 are another Turner family and they are living at 33 Woolley Colliery. Again no mention of Top Row on the image but the transcribers have stated Top Row. I suspect the transcribers were working from summary books too and have omitted some things some times.
TURNER, Charles Albert Head Married M 43 1868 Colliery Horsekeeper Underground Yorkshire Barugh
TURNER, Margaret Ann Wife Married
21 years F 40 1871 Yorkshire Higham
TURNER, Harry Vernon Son Single M 20 1891 Dataler Underground Yorkshire Barugh
TURNER, Albert Edmund Son Single M 16 1895 Pony Driver Underground Yorkshire Barugh
TURNER, George Frederick Son M 9 1902 School Yorkshire Barugh
TURNER, Alice Daughter F 6 1905 School Yorkshire Wolley Colliery
TURNER, Charles Donald Son M 3 1908 Yorkshire Wolley Colliery
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27559 Reference:
RG14PN27559 RG78PN1577 RD507 SD1 ED15 SN131
Registration District:
Barnsley Sub District:
Darton Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Woolley
Address:
Top Row Woolley Colliery Barnsley County:
Yorkshire (West riding)
Jo
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