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Richard Archer born c1811

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  Posted by ste (U14326566) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  Dear All
  
  In the 1851 census Richard was stated as being born Somerset Bristol
  then in 1861 census is has is birthplace as Stratford-upon Avon then in 1871 it changes again to Illington Warwickshire ...i know that each census is my ancestor as the his wife's name fit and the childrens names are the same ...
  
  but how can i tell which is the correct birthplace for him..
  also i am trying to find a marriage for him to his wife Ann their first children was born in Cheltemham Gloucestershire
  
  any help would be appreciated
  many thanks
  regards ste

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  ste... you are not giving enough information to get a correct answer!
  
  Richard Archer born ?
  wifes name?
  first child born when?
  
  
  With the information you have given, I can only direct you to freebmd and work backwards from the date of the first born. As you know the wife's name, put her name in the search to narrow it down a bit

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  Posted by ste (U14326566) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  Richard Archer was born 1811 wife was born 1823 her name was Ann and was born in illmington and there first child was born 1846 name was Frederick
  regards ste

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  1851
  Richard Archer 41 Hawker Bristol somerset
  Ann Archer 20 Ilmington
  Richard Archer 6 Ilmington
  Edward Archer 4 Ilmington
  Prudence Archer 1 month Evesham
  
  Civil parish: Evesham All Saints
  Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester
  County/Island: Worcestershire
  
  
  so Ann sounds like a second wife?

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  where was Frederick?

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  Posted by ste (U14326566) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  thank you jc this info is excellent also i am unsure where frederick disappeared to unless he past away
  regards ste

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  Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  
  Hi ste.
  
  Richard is Lucy's father, right?
  
  Richard and Ann feature on two trees on A*y. Both have him b. Stratford upon Avon.
  
  One has him married to an Ann [maiden name not known], b. abt 1823 in Ilrington, Warks. No data to substantiate that though.
  
  The other has him marrying an Ann Lawrence (b 1823 in Gloucester) at Greenwich London in 1840. No data to substantiate that either.
  
  Neither tree has any information about parents for Richard or either of the Ann's.
  
  Warwickshire Parish Records are available on A*y, but nothing obvious is popping up for the marriage of a Richard and an Ann around 1845ish.
  
  STG
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by ste (U14326566) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  Thanks for sharing that information STG ...but i too couldn't find a marriage only one in greenwich and the other in Bethal green which i think come under london /middlesex so i am unsure which one is my Richard and Ann
  i was searching familysearch.org and came across a Richard Archer born whittington Shropshire in 1810 and on in Bishops Tackbrook Warwickshire in 1808
  however i don't which is my Richard as the census list different birth place so i don't know which birthplace is correct...
  
  if i could maybe find a 1841 census for Richard for him this my help
  
  in 1851 states he was born Somerset Bristol
  1861 states he was born Stratford upon Avon
  1871 States Wilmonton
  
  regards ste

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  Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  1841( I put +/- 5 years into search box ) He says hes a Farmer , born in county
  
  ARCHER, Richard M 30 1811 Warwickshire
  ARCHER, Mary F 30 1811 Warwickshire
  HADLEY, Hannah F 20 1821 Warwickshire
  SHAKESPEARE, Emma F 15 1826 Warwickshire
  GULLIVER, Charles M 15 1826 Warwickshire
  BLACKHALL, George M 15 1826 Warwickshire
  
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  Piece:
  1134 Book/Folio:
  10/4 Page:
  3 Registration District:
  Warwick
  
  Civil Parish:
  Wasperton Municipal Borough:
  Address:
  Vicarage House, Wasperton County:
  Warwickshire
  
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  This is 1851 - brickie's labourer. Think 1851 may have Ann's age wrong
  
  Name: Prudence Archer
  Age: 10
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
  Relation: Daughter
  Father's Name: Richard Archer
  Mother's Name: Ann Archer
  Gender: Female
  Where born: Gresborne, Worcestershire, England
  
  Civil parish: Birmingham
  Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
  County/Island: Warwickshire
  Country: England
  
  
  Registration district: Birmingham
  Sub-registration district: St Peter
  ED, institution, or vessel: 16
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Household schedule number: 261
  Piece: 2148
  Folio: 97
  Page Number: 49
  Household Members:
  Name Age
  Richard Archer 50
  Ann Archer 38
  Frederick Archer 14 - spoon polisher b cheltenham
  Prudence Archer 10
  Henry Archer 7 - b Kidderminster
  John Archer 6 - b Dudley
  Lucy Archer 3 - b Dudley
  Joseph Archer 1 - b Brimingham
  William Waters 62

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

  I wonder if Fred is Richard or Edward on 1851 using a middle name

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  Posted by ste (U14326566) on Wednesday, 9th November 2011

  thank you all for the help it is very much appreciated regards ste

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