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HUNTING JOHN CADMAN b.1852/3 - Furnance man - Shropshire

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Hello hunters,
  
  I am still hunting for info on John Cadman b.1852/3 Nabb, Shifnal Shropshire - mother Martha. (plus all the info from previous posts.)
  
  What I want to do now is find out if John Cadman was related to Rev.Dr. Samuel Parkes Cadman b.1865 (parents Samuel and Betsy Caman)...
  
  Fingers crossed on this one - I know there are 2000+ Cadmna's in the Shropshire area throughout the 1800/1900's...I think it will be a miracle if you can find the link - I scratched my head to bits and cannot fathom the link yet!
  
  And if anyone could find the birth for Samuel Parkes Cadman - greatly appreciated...
  
  thank you
  
  BH
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Only birth I could find for Samuel Parkes Cadman:-
  
  Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
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  Cadman Samuel Parkes H Wellington, Sh. 6a 704
  

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Thanks BB - same here - i saw that one too - a very difficult hunt this is - not sure if it's time to put it to rest and forget it or what?
  
  Any suggestions when things brickwall like this?
  
  thanks
  
  BH
  
  
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Due to the birth of Samuel Parkes Cadman and working on the theory that mmn is often the childs middle I looked for a marriage between Cadman and a Parkes but all I could find was this possible one:-
  
  Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
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  Cadman Robert Dudley 6c 78
  HOMER Alice Dudley 6c 78
  PARKES Sarah Dudley 6c 78
  Sidaway Thomas Dudley 6c 78
  
  
  Off course this doesn't confirm that Robert Cadman married Sarah Parkes or if they are anything to do with the Cadman family you are looking for. I'll have a look on 1911
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  I looked for Samuel,born 1906, death as I couldn't find him on 1911 no luck I'm afraid.

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  The 'Parkes' name came from SPC's mother - 'Betsy Parkes' - the young Samuel Parkes H Cadman may be related (SPC was very famous Methodist minister in New York USA during the late 1890' - 1930's and died there too) and likely the family you mention may have been either related or just a coincidence or no relation whatsoever just called their child after someone 'famous' because that's what people do sometimes with the same surname?
  
  
  Although on saying that - Dudley is in the West midlands and my Cadman's are Shropshire peeps...close-ish
  
  
  still hunting!
  
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Just for info there is this marriage on freebmd, not forgetting that marriages where often carried out in the brides parish:-
  
  Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)
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  BLACKWELL Jane Chapel le F. 7b 1233
  CADMAN Samuel Parkes Chapel le F. 7b 1233
  WARDLE Isaac Chapel le F. 7b 1233
  Wooding Lilian Esther Chapel en le Frith 7b 1233
  
  
  

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Thanks BB...
  
  still hunting...
  
  BH
  

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  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  parents: William Cadman,​ Ann
  
  
  name: John Cadman
  gender: Male
  baptism/christening date: 14 Oct 1849
  baptism/christening place: The Nabb, Shropshire, England
  father's name: William Cadman
  mother's name: Ann
  indexing project (batch) number: I03142-7
  system origin: England-EASy
  source film number: 1657510
  
  This mother is wrong but there is also an Ann born later to this couple
  
  It may help if you add the link to your previous searches so we can see what you have already.
  
  Edna

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  parents: William Cadman,​ Ann
  
  
  name: John Cadman
  gender: Male
  baptism/christening date: 14 Oct 1849
  baptism/christening place: The Nabb, Shropshire, England
  father's name: William Cadman
  mother's name: Ann
  indexing project (batch) number: I03142-7
  system origin: England-EASy
  source film number: 1657510
  
  This mother is wrong but there is also an Ann born later to this couple
  
  It may help if you add the link to your previous searches so we can see what you have already.
  
  ·΅»ε²Τ²ΉΜύ 1891 census
  CADMAN, John Head Married M 38 1853 Coal Miner
  Wellington
  Shropshire
  CADMAN, Sabina Wife Married F 47 1844
  Wellington
  Shropshire
  CADMAN, John Son M 6 1885
  Wellington
  Shropshire
  CADMAN, Frederick Son M 3 1888
  Wellington
  Shropshire
  BOOTH, William Stepson Single M 20 1871 Coal Miner
  Shifnal
  Shropshire
  BOOTH, Mark Stepson Single M 17 1874 Coal Miner
  Shifnal
  Shropshire
  BOOTH, Agnes Stepdaughter F 15 1876
  Stroke Since 8 Years Old Shifnal
  Shropshire
  
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  RG number:
  RG12 Piece:
  2133 Folio:
  9 Page:
  11
  
  Registration District:
  Wellington Sub District:
  Wombridge Enumeration District:
  1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
  St Georges
  John Cadman
  
  England and Wales Census, 1881
  
  birth: 1853 Nabb,​ Shropshire,​ England
  residence: 1881 Shifnal,​ Shropshire,​ England
  census: 1881 Shifnal,​ Shropshire,​ England
  
  parents: Martha Cadman
  
  name: John Cadman
  age: 28
  gender: Male
  birth year: 1853
  birthplace: Nabb, Shropshire, England
  relationship to head of household: Son
  marital condition: Single
  profession/occupation: Gen Labourer
  address: St Georges
  census place: Shifnal, Shropshire, England
  record type: Household
  family history library film: 1341633
  the national archives reference: RG11
  piece/folio: 2633 / 85
  page number: 51
  I think the JC i'm looking for has a different birth date than the one you propose Edna - unless of course you can enlighten me - this search has been the toughest - do you think the William and Ann Cadman could be related to Martha maybe?a fresh pair of eyes and expert thought so any info gratefully received...
  
  thanks E
  
  BH
  
  

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  The 1851 census has a Martha Cadman born 1821 Shifnall with husband John (furnace man) born Lilleshall 1814 and a daughter born 1838 Wrockwardine. All living in Nabb.
  
  That being the case the 1841 census that has Samuel Cadman b 1828 to parents Samuel and Sarah born c 1806 in Shropshire means that if they are related it must be through the previous generation.
  
  My apologies if you have this already, I cannot see previous messages regarding this name.
  
  Jo

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  The 1851 census has a Martha Cadman born 1821 Shifnall with husband John (furnace man) born Lilleshall 1814 and a daughter born 1838 Wrockwardine. All living in Nabb.
  
  That being the case the 1841 census that has Samuel Cadman b 1828 to parents Samuel and Sarah born c 1806 in Shropshire means that if they are related it must be through the previous generation.
  
  My apologies if you have this already, I cannot see previous messages regarding this name.
  
  ΄³΄ΗΜύ Thanks Jo - I will digest this info - and see if I can get my head around the family links(possibly) you suggest... I think I need to step away from it for a while!!!!
  
  thank you
  BH

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  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  
  
  Here are all the Cadman's from the area and the only Martha seems to be from the 1847 Mainslee area I have checked right through about 20 pages of names and only other Martha Cadman was in the mid 1700s
  
  
  Edna

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  Posted by BoothHunter (U14812392) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011

  Thank you so much Edna...this is probably one of the toughest searches I have done...so really grateful for fellow hunters to pitch in...
  
  off to digest and contemplate or perhaps distract myself and help other hunters!
  
  winding down!
  
  BH
  

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