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Henry Evans c.1778 Manchester
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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Thursday, 20th October 2011
This is my 3xGt Grandfather & I need to know more about Henry & his spouse Mary Anne Atkins?who married Cirencester,St Johns 2.Jan1812
They had 7children.These were Calvin Claudius (2xGt Grandfather b.1818 Manchester.)Henry b.Cirencester 1814,George 1815,Mary A 1820 Cirencester,Emily 1823 & Hannah 1828-1908. In my notes there is also Edward 1806 but that would have been before their marriage.
As Henry would be 34yrs when he married Mary Anne Atkins I wonder if Edward was to a prior marriage.Mary Anne is c.1782.
Any help appreciated -
Message 2
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Thursday, 20th October 2011
Cant find a baptism for Manchester betty nearest is Liverpool but will keep checking through different ways on Familysearch
Edna -
Message 3
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Thursday, 20th October 2011
This looks like a possible marriage for Henry so Edward could be a child of this marriage
Edna
Groom's Name: Henry Evans
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Emeley
Marriage Date: 24 May 1803
Marriage Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Groom's Marital Status: Unknown
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01056-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 443330
Reference Number: cn 94 -
Message 4
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Thursday, 20th October 2011
This gives the marriage as Cathedral Manchester
Edna
Henry Evans
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 24 May 1803 Cathedral,​Manchester,​Lancashire,​England
spouse: Mary Emiley
groom's name: Henry Evans
bride's name: Mary Emiley
marriage date: 24 May 1803
marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M00546-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 438189 -
Message 5
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Thursday, 20th October 2011
Nothing is certain but this could be her death
Edna
Name: Mary Evans
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 05 Apr 1808
Burial Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death Date:
Death Place:
Age:
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04352-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1545576
Reference Number: p 1 -
Message 6
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Friday, 21st October 2011
who did your great grandfather calvin claudius evans marry ?
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Message 7
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Friday, 21st October 2011
Groom's Name: Calvin Claudius Evans
Bride's Name: Jane Turbefield
Marriage Date: 09 Aug 1840
Marriage Place: Kidderminster,Worcester,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04395-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 465263
Reference Number:
This looks like him vron
Edna -
Message 8
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Friday, 21st October 2011
just wanted to check with betty Edna as on ances*** there are a few trees with some discrepencies
Christopher Calvin Columbus Evans
Birth: 18 Jun 1816 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Parents: Henry Evans, Mary Emiley
Spouse: Jane Turbefield
Calvin Claudius Evans
Birth: 1819 - Kidderminster, England
Marriage: 9th Aug 1840 (9 Aug 1840) - Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Parents: Henry Evans, Mary Ann Atkins
Spouse: Jane Turbefield -
Message 9
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Friday, 21st October 2011
This gives the marriage as Cathedral Manchester
Edna
Henry Evans
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 24 May 1803 Cathedral,​Manchester,​Lancashire,​England
spouse: Mary Emiley
groom's name: Henry Evans
bride's name: Mary Emiley
marriage date: 24 May 1803
marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M00546-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 438189Ìý This certainly looks good Edna,& I see that Mary Emiley was a widow when she
married Henry Evans. They could also have son Edward b.1806.
Than Mary may have died a couple of years later & Henry marries Mary Ann Atkins in Cirencester. -
Message 10
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Friday, 21st October 2011
who did your great grandfather calvin claudius evans marry ?
Ìý Calvin Claudius Evans married Jane Turbefield 9th Aug 1840 Kidderminster.
I have quite a bit of info on these.In 1841c they are still in Kidderminster with son Henry 3mnth.The family moved to Scotland & were living in Edinburgh at 1861c.
They had 7 children in total.
Calvin died in 1883 Scotland & Jane was living in Chelsea with daughter Emma Threlkeld & family at 1891c.
I know nothing of Jane Turbefields parents/siblings. -
Message 11
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Friday, 21st October 2011
just wanted to check with betty Edna as on ances*** there are a few trees with some discrepencies
Christopher Calvin Columbus Evans
Birth: 18 Jun 1816 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Parents: Henry Evans, Mary Emiley
Spouse: Jane Turbefield
Calvin Claudius Evans
Birth: 1819 - Kidderminster, England
Marriage: 9th Aug 1840 (9 Aug 1840) - Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Parents: Henry Evans, Mary Ann Atkins
Spouse: Jane Turbefield
Ìý Vron,
I know there are discrepancies with some of the trees on anc.
Whilst I was doing my earlier research of Calvin I also came across Calvin with the name Christopher & also Columbus..However the marriage registration show him as Calvin Claudius Evans & so that is what I had accepted.However looking at what you have found their were 2 of them.One to Henry's 1st wife & the other to his 2nd wife Mary Ann Atkin. But then again it states that Jane Turbefield was the spouse of both of them.Their son George Evans b. Kidderminster c.1842 married my Scottish Gt Grandmother Sarah Elizabeth Sinclair in Edinburgh & their youngest daughter b. Langholm,Dumfries was my paternal Granny.
Now I am baffled!! -
Message 12
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Saturday, 22nd October 2011
HI Betty
I was wondering originally if there were two seperate people involved- one born manchester and one born kidderminster, especially as one of the ances*** tres gives such a specific birth date for manchester birth. i was wondering where they got that from. but i can only see one lot on census i think. though christopher calvin columbus could just appear as christopher on census etc and there are lots of them. i can your family in 1841 england, 1861 scotland,1881 scotland . have you got them on the missing 1851 and 1871 census.
Do you have their son georges 1842 birth cert giving mary atkins as mother and what name for father . Calvin seems to stay steady but other names seem to float in and out of references.
it is very possible that henry married mary emily first and then mary ann atkins. it is strange that your calvin was born manchester when all other siblings born either side of him were born cirencester area -
Message 13
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011
HI Betty
I was wondering originally if there were two seperate people involved- one born manchester and one born kidderminster, especially as one of the ances*** tres gives such a specific birth date for manchester birth. i was wondering where they got that from. but i can only see one lot on census i think. though christopher calvin columbus could just appear as christopher on census etc and there are lots of them. i can your family in 1841 england, 1861 scotland,1881 scotland . have you got them on the missing 1851 and 1871 census.
Do you have their son georges 1842 birth cert giving mary atkins as mother and what name for father . Calvin seems to stay steady but other names seem to float in and out of references.
it is very possible that henry married mary emily first and then mary ann atkins. it is strange that your calvin was born manchester when all other siblings born either side of him were born cirencester areaÌý Good Morning Vron,
1. I must tell you that way back in Oct 2006 someone on another forum also
thought there were 2 seperate people involved & like you there were lots of them.
My Calvin Claudius Evans age 22 was living @No.5 St John's Rd Kidderminster with his wife Jane 22 & son Henry age 3mnth. Calvin was a Carpet weaver.
I don't know where they were in 1851,although I have a list (extracted) from the IGI which indicates 13 children born to Calvin & Jane Evans.Some died,but basically the list indicates that 8 were christened in Kidderminster up to 1852.
All the other children were born Edinburgh,however Emma the last one chr.in Kidder.1852 was born Edinburgh.
I wonder if some of the children on this list on the IGI belong to someone else as I do know there was also a GEORGE EVANS on the censuses from 1851 - 1891 who was also married to a Jane Young & they had a son also named Calvin b.1845.
2.The son George b.1842 was not the son of mary atkins,he was the son of Calvin C & Jane Turbefield as above.I apologise as I think I may have confused you with my last message on that one.
3.Possibly Calvin was b.Manchester whilst the family was visiting,as they were married in Kidderminster & probably where Mary Atkins came from.
This family are so confusing !!!
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Message 14
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011
HI Betty
I was wondering originally if there were two seperate people involved- one born manchester and one born kidderminster, especially as one of the ances*** tres gives such a specific birth date for manchester birth. i was wondering where they got that from. but i can only see one lot on census i think. though christopher calvin columbus could just appear as christopher on census etc and there are lots of them. i can your family in 1841 england, 1861 scotland,1881 scotland . have you got them on the missing 1851 and 1871 census.
Do you have their son georges 1842 birth cert giving mary atkins as mother and what name for father . Calvin seems to stay steady but other names seem to float in and out of references.
it is very possible that henry married mary emily first and then mary ann atkins. it is strange that your calvin was born manchester when all other siblings born either side of him were born cirencester areaÌý Good Morning Vron,
1. I must tell you that way back in Oct 2006 someone on another forum also
thought there were 2 seperate people involved & like you there were lots of them.
My Calvin Claudius Evans age 22 was living @No.5 St John's Rd Kidderminster with his wife Jane 22 & son Henry age 3mnth. Calvin was a Carpet weaver.
I don't know where they were in 1851,although I have a list (extracted) from the IGI which indicates 13 children born to Calvin & Jane Evans.Some died,but basically the list indicates that 8 were christened in Kidderminster up to 1852.
All the other children were born Edinburgh,however Emma the last one chr.in Kidder.1852 was born Edinburgh.
I wonder if some of the children on this list on the IGI belong to someone else as I do know there was also a GEORGE EVANS on the censuses from 1851 - 1891 who was also married to a Jane Young & they had a son also named Calvin b.1845.
2.The son George b.1842 was not the son of mary atkins,he was the son of Calvin C & Jane Turbefield as above.I apologise as I think I may have confused you with my last message on that one.
3.Possibly Calvin was b.Manchester whilst the family was visiting,as they were married in Kidderminster & probably where Mary Atkins came from.
This family are so confusing !!!
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Ìý Stop the clock!
I have just been sent some downloads from a descendant of the Evans' family.
Copies of:
Death cert for Calvin Claudius Evans died Govan Scotland 31.July 1883.Age 64
Son of Henry Evans(occ.Mason) & Mary Atkins(both deceased).Informant of death was George Evans (Calvins son).
Also they have given me this info.Calvin was christened at St John the Baptist Cirencester 6 Aug 1820 same date as his brother George.
Birth cert for Alfred & Sarah 1855 - Edinburgh
Death Cert for Calvin jnr.aged 13mnth- Edinburgh -
Message 15
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011
Well good for the contact betty
problem solved.
Edna -
Message 16
Posted by bettyespana (U14275744) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011
Well good for the contact betty
problem solved.
EdnaÌý Yes Edna,
Great isn't it,& apparently there is a thought that Henry worked as a Mason on the St John's Church where he married Mary Atkin in Cirencester.
I don't know how anyone would find that out,however they are going to try & then let me know. -
Message 17
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Sunday, 23rd October 2011
glad you have got some more info Betty. hope your contact comes up with more for you
vron
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