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  Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Need some opinions please.
  
  As some of you know I have been tracing the Hinchliffe family from Huddersfield.
  James and Sarah with children Eliza, Charlotte, Elizabeth, Emma, Rhoda, Amelia, Mark, George and my Thomas.
  I've been through all of them individually but the youngest George born 1836 is still niggling me.
  
  I traced him all the way through to 1911 but on getting the marriage certificate he names his father as George when it should be James. Now being the youngest when his father died (he was 7 at most) is it plausible he didn't know or remember his name?
  
  Or is it simply I have the wrong chap! I have posted about George before trying to find other options but keep coming back to the one who marries Anne Cuckson in 1856. I thought I had another suspiscion it wasn't him but can't put my finger on what it was.
  
  Anyway cut a long post short how plausible do you think it is I do have the right one despite the incorrect fathers name?
  
  Thank you.
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Is this another possible marriage to a Jane:-
  
  Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
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  Hinchcliffe George Wortley 9c 206
  Jessop Hannah Wortley 9c 206
  Thorpe Edwin Wortley 9c 206
  Wroe Jane Wortley 9c 206
  
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Is the George you have traced through the census the one whose occupation is the Millwright?

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  Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  In 1851 he's a woolen finisher, 1851 work putterout, 1881 woollen overlooker, 1891 woolen designer, 1911 designer but his birthplace chops about between Scisset, Cumberworth, Huddersfield.
  
  

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  Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Is this him in 1871 ? it says he's a bookkeeper
  
  Name: George Hinchliffe
  Age: 36
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
  Relation: Head
  Spouse's Name: Ann Hinchliffe
  Gender: Male
  Where born: Cumberworth, Yorkshire, England
  Civil parish: Cumberworth
  Ecclesiastical parish: Scissett
  Town: Scissett
  County/Island: Yorkshire
  Country: England
  Registration district: Huddersfield
  Sub-registration district: Kirkburton
  ED, institution, or vessel: 15
  Household schedule number: 100
  Piece: 4355
  Folio: 31
  Page Number: 24
  Household Members: Name Age
  George Hinchliffe 36
  Ann Hinchliffe 33
  Geo Ed Hinchliffe 13
  Elizth Ann Hinchliffe 10
  Lucy Hinchliffe 7
  Laura Eva Hinchliffe 2
  
  
  
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  Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4355; Folio: 31; Page: 24; GSU roll: 846991.
  
  

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  Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Yes that's the one I followed through.

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  Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  I think this is the one you may have the marriage certificate for.
  
  West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
  Name: George Hinchliffe
  Birth Date: 28 Mar 1837
  Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
  Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1837
  Father's Name: George Hinchliffe
  Mother's Name: Ann Hinchliffe
  
  
  

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  Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Tourmie,
  
  Do you know who the family are living next door to George and Ann in 1861? They are all born Cumberworth so would logically be related to George. It would be a rare coincidence if he was living next to an unrelated family with the same surname. So may confirm you are following the right family.

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  Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Hmmm I see what you mean about the people next door. It looks like the mother Eliza is a widow so she married a Hinchliffe and her birth name was Calverley.
  
  Now George did have a sister Eliza born the same year butttt she married a Taylor so that can't be her and I don't know those grandchildren.
  
  Oh dear. His mother remarried someone from Cumberworth and lived there plus some of his siblings were baptised there.
  
  Where did the bit about Georges parents being George and Ann come from please?
  
  Not looking good for it to be the George I want is it

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  Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Hmmm I see what you mean about the people next door. It looks like the mother Eliza is a widow so she married a Hinchliffe and her birth name was Calverley.
  
  Now George did have a sister Eliza born the same year butttt she married a Taylor so that can't be her and I don't know those grandchildren.
  
  Oh dear. His mother remarried someone from Cumberworth and lived there plus some of his siblings were baptised there.
  
  Where did the bit about Georges parents being George and Ann come from please?
  
  Not looking good for it to be the George I want is it Μύ Glens message 7 re Georges baptism, is from the West Yorkshire records found on Ancestry

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  Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  Yes of course thanks
  
  I wonder if it's worth taking a punt on another likely looking marriage?
  I can't see any with a father James, unfortunately the 1862 one to Jane isn't on there to show a fathers name, and there aren't that many other options for a George of the right age in the census. Hmmm.

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  Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  OK so if his parents are George and Ann I should be able to find him in 1841 and 1851 to rule him out.
  If he is nestled with them then he isn't my George who is nestled with his parents/mother for those years.
  
  1851 there is a George born Cumberworth 1836 father George but his wife is Elizabeth. Regardless of the mother/wifes name that could be the other George on the block.
  
  1841 not as helpful, there is a George with parents George and Elizabeth again
  
  I think it is the wrong one you know. First son is called George also.
  Begs the question what happened to my George after 1851?
  
  

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