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Hayes family of Freckleton

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  Posted by benger7 (U15006079) on Sunday, 16th October 2011

  Hello, I am new to this site and I am hopig someone can tell me where I can find records for a James Hayes of Freckleton. , Lancs. He and his son ran a hardware shop in Freckleton in in 1920s and 30s but despite much online research I can find nothing about him or the business.
  
  Also does anyone know if the records of the Robert Davies Nursing Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ in West Derby, Liverpool still exist and where they can be found ?
  
  

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  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 16th October 2011

  These are BMDs in Freckleton taken from the lan opc site
  
  Baptisms: 19 Nov 1884 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Elizabeth Ann Hayes - Child of John Hayes & Margaret
  
  Baptisms: 6 Oct 1889 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Jane Ellen Hayes - Child of John Binn Hayes & Hannah
  
  Burial: 12 Aug 1893 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Hannah Hayes -
  
  Burial: 31 Dec 1898 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Gerald Hayes -
  
  Only go up to 1900 I think
  
  Lancashire record Office in Preston will have the records for Frekleton and possibly records about the buisiness.
  
  I think if there are records for the Robert Davis Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ they will be in Liverpool Record Office, May still be in the top floor of the Museum Building as a refurb is going on.
  
  If you have more info on the family we may be able to offer further help if you need it.
  
  Edna

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  Posted by Bill (U1780452) on Tuesday, 18th October 2011

  James Hayes in mentioned in a list of businesses in Feckleton, 1934, see link below. He is a general dealer living at 30 Lytham Road.
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by benger7 (U15006079) on Saturday, 22nd October 2011

  These are BMDs in Freckleton taken from the lan opc site
  
  Baptisms: 19 Nov 1884 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Elizabeth Ann Hayes - Child of John Hayes & Margaret
  
  Baptisms: 6 Oct 1889 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Jane Ellen Hayes - Child of John Binn Hayes & Hannah
  
  Burial: 12 Aug 1893 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Hannah Hayes -
  
  Burial: 31 Dec 1898 Holy Trinity, Freckleton, Lancashire, England
  Gerald Hayes -
  
  Only go up to 1900 I think
  
  Lancashire record Office in Preston will have the records for Frekleton and possibly records about the buisiness.
  
  I think if there are records for the Robert Davis Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ they will be in Liverpool Record Office, May still be in the top floor of the Museum Building as a refurb is going on.
  
  If you have more info on the family we may be able to offer further help if you need it.
  
  ·΅»ε²Τ²ΉΜύ Thank you for the information, Edna. My gt grandfather John Binns Hayesborn 1859 was the son of John Binns Hayes (snr) and Jane Rowlinson. John and Jane married in the Manchester Cathedral on 10 December 1849. Their marriage certificate states that their fathers' names were William Hayes, a Spinner and John Rowlinson, an Umbrella Maker. I cannot find any moe information for John and Jane or their respective parents. If you or anyone can offer any help I would be very grateful.
  
  Denise Benger

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  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Saturday, 22nd October 2011

  England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Heyes
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  Gender: Male
  Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Feb 1854
  Baptism/Christening Place: Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
  Father's Name: John Heyes
  Mother's Name: Jane
  Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04331-9
  System Origin: England-EASy
  Source Film Number: 1278890
  Reference Number: item 19 p 119
  
  Will look further later as I have some work to do in the garden now.
  
  Edna
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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Saturday, 22nd October 2011

  FI
  
  Heres John B and Hannah in 1881 with baby James 7 months.
  
  Still looking for previous censuses.
  
  Name: John B. Hayes
  Age: 21
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
  Relation: Son in Law
  Gender: Male
  Where born: Baxendale, Lancashire, England
  
  Civil parish: Oldham
  County/Island: Lancashire
  Country: England
  
  Street Address: 51 Lime Side Road
  Condition as to marriage: Married
  Education:
  
  Employment status: View image
  Occupation: Over Looker (C M)
  
  Registration district: Oldham
  Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
  ED, institution, or vessel: 53
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Piece: 4076
  Folio: 18
  Page Number: 29
  Household Members: Name Age
  Robert Andrew 62
  Olive Andrew 62
  John B. Hayes 21
  Hannah Hayes 20
  James Hayes
  
  There is another John B Hayes b 1854 in Lancashire married to an Emma in 1881 and with grandmother in Wales in 1861.
  
  Jo

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  Posted by benger7 (U15006079) on Saturday, 22nd October 2011

  Hello Jo, thank you for replying to ;my earlier post. I have seen the 1881 census but although the names and ages for John, Hannah and James are correct,, I am not sure it is them John is not the son-in-law of Robert and Olive Andrew. Hannah's full name was Margaret Ann Norcross and her parents were James Norcross and Elizabeth (Betty) Kilshaw. I do not have any Andrews in my family tree andI have no idea what relation (if any) they are to John or Hannah.
  
  I know the census enumerators sometiimes recorded the relationship incorrectly, so I can only assume they were lodging with the Andrews family.
  
  Denise

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Saturday, 22nd October 2011

  Hi there
  
  Sometimes on censuses the relationships were pretty inaccurate. Sometimes they were correct but sometimes not. If someone was unsure what the relationship was they would just say a relative or in law. The fact that Robert and Olive are about 2 generations away from John and Hannah, could mean that they are actually related in another way two generations back.
  
  Checking for the Andrews on earlier censuses may unfold a connection to either John or Hannahs lineage.
  
  I will see what I can find, though someone may beat me to it.
  
  Jo
  

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