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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Is it possible to find out his next of kin from the War Records. I have Frederick James Kendall killed in action in Aug 1915. His enlistment location is Stratford which is next door to West Ham where he was born and lived. I can't seem to find anything more about him. Any ideas where I can look next!
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Message 2
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Do you have his dob please?
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Message 3
Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Name: KENDALL, FREDERICK JAMES
Initials: F J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 06/08/1915
Service No: 16814
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 144 to 150 or 229 to 233.
from cwgc.org -
Message 4
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Is this the correct man and is this the same information you have:-
Name: KENDALL, Frederick J
Unit: Essex Regiment
Rank: Private
Number: 16814
Year: 1915
Volume: I.66
Page: 26
Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to1921)
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Name: Frederick James KENDALL
Rank: PRIVATE
Initials: F J
Birthplace: West Ham, Essex
Residence: West Ham
Enlisted: Stratford, Essex
Regiment, Corps etc.: Essex Regiment
Battalion etc.: 1st Battalion.
Number: 16814
Date died: 6 August 1915
How died: Killed in action
Theatre of war: Gallipoli -
Message 5
Posted by dmatt47 (U13073434) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Is it possible to find out his next of kin from the War Records. I have Frederick James Kendall killed in action in Aug 1915. His enlistment location is Stratford which is next door to West Ham where he was born and lived. I can't seem to find anything more about him. Any ideas where I can look next!Μύ As he died his war record wil not have survived. There are several Frederick J Kendall in the censuses but assuming that he was 18 years old in 1915 that will give a start. Do you know from his enlistment records what his age was?.
Unfortunately the Commonwealth War Graves Commission certificate does not list his age nor his parents. -
Message 6
Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
his service record isn't on Ancestry...
Over 60% of ther services records were destryoyed by fire, so it may not have survived
he was awarded the British and Victory Medals also the 1915 Star
entered theatre of war 17/7/1915 Balhaus -
Message 7
Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
1911, the only one that fits is
KENDALL FREDERICK J M 1882 29 West Ham Essex
KENDALL ALICE MAUD F 1911 3 MONTHS West Ham Essex
KENDALL EMILY F 1884 27 West Ham Essex
KENDALL FREDERICK J M 1908 3 West Ham Essex
KENDALL FREDERICK J M 1882 29 West Ham Essex
KENDALL LOUISA F 1906 5 West Ham Essex -
Message 8
Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
this is possibly Frederick living in Edmonton in 1901
153 Warwick Rd
Frederick Kendall 49 carman
Louisa Kendall 46
Rose Kendall 22
Frederick Kendall 19 commercial clerk Islington
Eleanor Kendall 15
William Kendall 13 -
Message 9
Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Name: Frederick James Kendall
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1882
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 85 -
Message 10
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Kendall Frederick James W. Ham 4a 491
Redgewell Emily W.Ham 4a 491
Ridgewell Emily W. Ham 4a 491
Robinson Minnie Frances W. Ham 4a 491
Sneesby Henry William W. Ham 4a 491 -
Message 11
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Possibly 2 more sons
Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Kendall Thomas C Redgewell W.Ham 4a 270
Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Kendall George J Rodgewell W.Ham 4a 187
Kendall George J *ell W.Ham 4a 287 -
Message 12
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Yes, this is the family and the only death record that ties up is Frederick killed in action.
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Message 13
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
On the 1911 Frederick was a market Porter address given as
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83 Marcus St West Ham E County:
Essex -
Message 14
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Frederick was born 1882 in West Ham and married Emily Ridgewell/Redgewell.
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Message 15
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Yes, this is him.
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Message 16
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
KENDALL, Frederick J Head Married M 29 1882 Market Porter Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Emily Wife Married
6 years F 27 1884 Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Louisa Daughter F 5 1906 Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Frederick J Son M 3 1908 Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Alice Maud Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Essex West Ham
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9422 Reference:
RG14PN9422 RG78PN507A RD188 SD3 ED12 SN71
Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Plaistow Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
West Ham
Address:
83 Marcus St West Ham E County:
Essex -
Message 17
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
What makes you think that Emily would not be his next of kin on his army records?
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Message 18
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
KENDALL, Frederick J Head Married M 29 1882 Market Porter Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Emily Wife Married
6 years F 27 1884 Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Louisa Daughter F 5 1906 Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Frederick J Son M 3 1908 Essex West Ham
KENDALL, Alice Maud Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Essex West Ham
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9422 Reference:
RG14PN9422 RG78PN507A RD188 SD3 ED12 SN71
Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Plaistow Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
West Ham
Address:
83 Marcus St West Ham E County:
Essex
Μύ Yes this is the family. I need to know if the Frederick I found kiiled in action is the same one. This is the nearest I have got to finding a death for him. My husband visited Emily regularly and her daughter regularly but never met Frederick and was never mentioned either. This is a mystery. -
Message 19
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Emily had another son in 1925 but no father was ever mentioned and I cannot find a death for Frederick in West Ham where the son grew up with his mother.
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Message 20
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Did you buy the birth cert of the son born in 1925 to see if there was mention of the father, I would have had too just to be nosey! I wonder if he was baptised.
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Message 21
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
Click the link to read up on getting service records
Edna -
Message 22
Posted by dmatt47 (U13073434) on Tuesday, 11th October 2011
His service record will not have survived as he died, otherwise it would be in the National Archives, Kew. MOD charge Β£30 whether they have the record or not and there is no refund if they do not have the file.
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Message 23
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
No I haven't got his birth certificate, perhaps I should get this and try and find out if he was baptised and find the records. Well thank you all very much for your help, it is much appreciated.
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Message 24
Posted by mimi (U3864145) on Thursday, 20th October 2011
Update, first thank you to everyone who helped. I now have his birth certificate and there is no father named on it. Mystery solved. Once again many thanks for your help.
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