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1950s death certificate Charles Aldrich
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Message 1.Β
Posted by nats-a (U2964981) on Monday, 10th October 2011
Can anyone let me know what information would be provided on a death certificate from about 1950? I have found the dearth of my ancestor Charles John Aldrich and would like to know if the death certificate will tell me any information about his birth (date/place?) as I can not find any information on him before his marriage in 1917. Thanks
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Message 2
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Monday, 10th October 2011
I have my grandmother's death certificate from 1957 in Leicestershire.
Information is:
- When and where died
- Name and surname
- Sex
- Age
- Occupation
- Cause of death
- Signature, description and residence of informant
- When registered
- Signature of registrar
So, that's a long way around to say no to your question about whether it will contain information about his birth date/place.
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Message 3
Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Monday, 10th October 2011
Other than cause of death and date of death, the rest is only good as the informant.
Even my grandad's death had his DOB out by 4 years! you would think my mum or her brother would have got closer than that.
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Message 4
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Monday, 10th October 2011
There's an image on Ancestry of the marriage entry, 24 June 1917, Trinity Church, St Marylebone, London.
For Charles it says
Age 29
Batchelor
Rank or profession - 24th Works Co, M'sex Regt
Residence at time of marriage - Parish of St Leonard's, Hythe [something] Kent
Father's name and surname - John Aldrich (deceased)
Rank or profession of father - Law writer
to
Margaret Agnes Mary Dutton
30
Spinster
142 St Titchfield St (possibly)
William Dutton (deceased)
Soldier
Does any of that help?
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Message 5
Posted by dmatt47 (U13073434) on Monday, 10th October 2011
The information on death certificates in England and Wales was only started in the summer of 1969, not much help in the 1950s.
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Message 6
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Monday, 10th October 2011
His army discharge papers are on Ancestry.
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Message 7
Posted by nats-a (U2964981) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Thanks everyone, I already know about his marriage and therefore he was born in 1887 ish but don't know when and also can not find his birth/christening anywhere, or find him on any censuses. Doesn't seem to be a Charles Aldrich of that age with a dad called John.
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Message 8
Posted by tigzak (U14667866) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Do you know where he was married
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Message 9
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
According to the free 1911 census website, there's a 23yo Charles John Aldrich living in Paddington. Other Aldrichs living in Paddington are:
Ellen 49
Ellen 4
Herbert 24
Herbert 2
Jessie 27
Have you ruled him out?
I'm off out now, but if no-one's found him for you before I get back I'll see if I can find the actual image.
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Message 10
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Possible:-
SMITH, William Head Married
18 years M 42 1869 Postman St Georges Hanover Sq Now City of Westminster
SMITH, Minnie Laura Wife Married F 42 1869 Fen Drayton Cambridge
SMITH, Edith Mary Daughter Single F 16 1895 Marylebone
SMITH, Frederick William Son M 11 1900 Marylebone
SMITH, Fanny Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1903 Marylebone
SMITH, Minnie Amelia Daughter F 8 1903 Marylebone
SMITH, Albert Edward Henry Son M 5 1906 Marylebone
ALDRICH, Charles John Boarder Single M 23 1888 Butcher Cambridge
RUSSELL, Harry Visitor Single M 24 1887 Sailor Boughton Lincoln
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11 Reference:
RG14PN11 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED11 SN186
Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington North Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Paddington
Address:
48 Beethoven Street Paddington County:
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Message 11
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
another possible Charles Aldrich:-
THORNES, Henry Head Married M 48 1863 General Shop Keeper London Chelsea
THORNES, Sarah Ann Wife Married
7 years F 46 1865 London St Lukes
ALDRICH, Charles Stepson Single M 23 1888 Furrier London Hoxton
ALDRICH, John Stepson Single M 20 1891 Tailor's Cutter London Hoxton
ALDRICH, Sarah Ann Stepdaughter Single F 17 1894 Pianoforte Teacher London Hoxton
PULLUM, Fredrick Boarder Single M 22 1889 Telephone Operator London St Pancras
THORNES, Louie Alice Daughter Single F 7 1904 School London Hoxton
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1358 Reference:
RG14PN1358 RG78PN47 RD16 SD2 ED13 SN91
Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Shoreditch North West Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Shoreditch
Address:
109 St Johns Road Hoxton County:
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Message 12
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Going back to when he was a nipper this looks to be the same family in 1891.
No father John though.
James Aldrich
28
Sarah Ann Aldrich
27
James Aldrich
7
Henry Aldrich
5
Charles Aldrich
3
John Aldrich
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Message 13
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
There's this possible for 1901 down as nephew born Islington 1888.
George Hughes
31
Victoria Hughes
34
Charles Aldrich
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Message 14
Posted by nats-a (U2964981) on Thursday, 13th October 2011
Many thanks for your suggestions but there doesn't seem to be anything concrete. He might be the one in Paddington in 1911 - though is anyone able to help with letting me know where this Charles John was born or how he's related to the others in the household? Maybe John Aldrich married Ellen? He might also be the butcher from Cambridge but I never heard anyone suggest that was his trade - and then I would need to find a birth in Cambridge in about 1888. I know he isn't the Charles related to James/Sarah Ann Thorne because that was a Charles FT Aldrich and I found his death a couple of years after the Charles John Aldrich death in 1950 ish (so there were defo two different people). Still struggling to find a birth of Charles John and get any further back on the Aldrich line. Thanks again for any help/suggestions
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Message 15
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Thursday, 13th October 2011
John Aldrich is not in the same house as Ellen Aldrich
ALDRICH, Ellen Head Widow F 49 1862 Lodging House Keeper Resident Cape Colony Port Elizabeth VIEW
ALDRICH, Herbert Son Married M 24 1887 Ticket Collector Resident Granville N S W Australia VIEW
ALDRICH, Jessie Daughter In Law Married
5 years F 27 1884 House Wife Suffolk Sudbury VIEW
ALDRICH, Ellen Granddaughter F 4 1907 London Pimlico VIEW
ALDRICH, Herbert Grandson M 2 1909 London Bayswater VIEW
MUMFORD, Florence Visitor Single F 15 1896 No Occupation Suffolk Sudbury VIEW
COLLARD, Rose Mary Ann Lodger Single F 56 1855 Private Mean's Middlesex Hillingdon VIEW
SEARS, Albert Lodger Single M 17 1894 Coffee Roaster London Marylebone VIEW
ANDERSON, Robert Lodger Single M 39 1872 Ladies Taylor Denmark Visitor VIEW
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Message 16
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Thursday, 13th October 2011
There is this one in 1911 address is 100 Rosoman St E C
ALDRICH, Charles Head Married
2 years M 24 1887 Newsvendor Clerkenwell VIEW
ALDRICH, Ellen Wife Married F 21 1890 Clerkenwell VIEW
PERRY, James Relative Widower M 57 1854 Cab Driver Clerkenwell VIEW
PERRY, George Relative Single M 18 1893 Van Gaurd Clerkenwell VIEW
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