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John where are you ?

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Hi all,
  
  John Folly was born in 1882 at Marlow, Bucks. Son to Daniel John and Sarah nee Miles.
  Can anybody have a look to see where he is on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census' ?
  
  Help expanding this branch would be much appreciated.
  
  :o)
  
  
  G

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Not doing well so far but assume this is the parents on 1871
  
  Name: Sarah Miles
  Age: 20
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
  Gender: Female
  Where born: West Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
  Civil parish: Great Marlow
  Town: Great Marlow
  County/Island: Buckinghamshire
  Country: England
  Registration district: Wycombe
  Sub-registration district: Great Marlow
  ED, institution, or vessel: 3
  Household schedule number: 167
  Piece: 1405
  Folio: 55
  Page Number: 27
  Household Members:
  Name Age
  John Folley 23 - b Stokenchurch, unmarried
  Sarah Miles 20
  Annie Miles 4 - b windsor
  George Miles 5 Months - b Windsor

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  Posted by michelle (U14999114) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  hi i cant find him at all on any of them just woundered have you found his birth record ?? and do you know ware bothe parents were married etc most of these ppl with this sir name i have found in irland
  
  anymor info would be a great help so i can find out more for you
  
  from michelle

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  One error - George Miles b Marlow not WIndsor
  
  They should be around in 1881
  
  Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
  BIRT Emma Wycombe 3a 816 Scan available - click to view
  Folley John Wycombe 3a 816 Scan available - click to view
  HARRIS Henry James Wycombe 3a 816 Scan available - click to view
  Miles Sarah Wycombe 3a 816 Scan available - click to view

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Its a tough one this.
  
  Daniel John often went by John as his name BUT he has been known to use his stepfather's surname also.
  So,
  Daniel John Folly/Folley
  John Folley/Folly
  Daniel John or John Steptoe
  
  He married Sarah Miles, cant remember if it was under Steptoe or Folly but not until later on from the 1871. I think George and Annie were his but i dont think they ever took the Folly name.
  Strange one but im sure they had a son John after they were officially married.
  
  G

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  I'd just found the Steptoe connection in 1881
  
  Name: George Miles
  Age: 9
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
  Relation: Son
  Father's Name: John Steptoe
  Gender: Male
  Where born: Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England
  
  Civil parish: Marlow
  County/Island: Buckinghamshire
  Country: England
  
  Street Address: Colonels Meadow
  Education:
  
  Employment status:
  
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  Occupation: Scholar
  
  Registration district: Wycombe
  Sub-registration district: Great Marlow
  ED, institution, or vessel: 5
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Piece: 1466
  Folio: 97
  Page Number: 13
  Household Members:
  Name Age
  John Steptoe 30 - b stokenchurch
  Sarah Miles 30 - b Guildford
  Annie Miles 13
  George Miles 9
  Elizabeth Miles 4
  Kate Miles 1

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  So George, Kate and Elizabeth are defo his children.
  
  Now to find them on the 1891. Should be under Folly and hopefully it will show a son called John Folly.
  
  Fingers crossed.
  
  G

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Sarh seems to have kept Miles in 1901! Have also seen Kate as a Miles on 1901, but still hunting for 1891 to see if John is to be seen
  
  Name: Sarah Miles
  Age: 58
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
  Relation: Mother
  Gender: Female
  Where born: Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England
  
  Civil parish: Richmond
  Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
  County/Island: Surrey
  Country: England
  
  Registration district: Richmond
  Sub-registration district: Richmond
  ED, institution, or vessel: 20
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Household schedule number: 44
  Piece: 676
  Folio: 27
  Page Number: 7
  Household Members:
  Name Age
  George Miles 29
  Frances Miles 30
  Frederick Miles 4
  Ernest Miles 2
  Anne Miles 5 Months
  Sarah Miles 58
  Thomas White 33

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Daniel John died in 1917 in Wycombe district so they must have become estranged. A very weird relationship and confusing for theirt children not to mention us !!!
  
  If we can just track em on the 1891 to see if they had a son John.
  
  

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Found them
  
  Name: Kate Fody
  Age: 11
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
  Relation: Daughter
  Father's Name: John Fody
  Mother's Name: Sarah Fody
  Gender: Female
  Where born: Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England
  
  Civil parish: Great Marlow
  Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
  Town: Great Marlow
  County/Island: Buckinghamshire
  Country: England
  
  
  Registration district: Wycombe
  Sub-registration district: Great Marlow
  ED, institution, or vessel: 5
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Piece: 1140
  Folio: 87
  Page Number: 18
  Household Members:
  Name Age
  John Fody 49
  Sarah Fody 44
  George Fody 21
  Elizabeth Fody 16
  Kate Fody 11
  John Fody 9

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  Cool.
  
  So they were under Folly in 1891.
  
  I think John Jnr kept the name. Does he appear on the 1901 ? Of course he could be Folly/Folley, Steptoe or Miles !!
  
  Confusing eh !!

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  He's not immediately obvious - there is a John Body on 1901, but he's on 1891 as well so it's not him

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 9th October 2011

  I can;t find him on 1901 but I think he's revert to Miles by 1911 - this person is b Marlow (may also explain 1901)
  
  MILITARY MILES JOHN 1883 28 Windsor Berkshire

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Monday, 10th October 2011

  Thanks MB.
  A very strange set up. They are defo Daniel John Folly's kids but kept the surname Miles. They then split up and Sarah reverts to the Miles surname.
  
  I think i found Daniel John Folly on the 1901 census in Herts somewhere, then again in an insitution in Watford in 1911. His death is then registered in Wycombe in 1917. Can anyone have a look on the 1901 and 1911 to see whether he is married and what his situation was ?
  
  Regards
  G

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Monday, 10th October 2011

  I can't see a candidate for Daniel John in Hertfordshire - can yuo give me any clues

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  Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Monday, 10th October 2011

  I can't see a candidate for Daniel John in Hertfordshire - can yuo give me any cluesΒ  Ive looked on the 1901 and 1911 census site.
  
  1901:
  Daniel J Folly 58 Stoken Church Wallingford Hertford Chorleywood Bricklayer
  
  
  1911:
  INSTITUTION FOLLEY DANIEL JOHN M 1834 77 Watford Hertfordshire

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  Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Monday, 10th October 2011

  Using wrong search terms
  
  Likes quite possible - he's a bricklayer, as John has been through the censuses. Marital status not noted. The family with which he is lodging were all born in county so probably not relatives
  
  Name: Daniel J Folly
  Age: 58
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
  Relation: Lodger
  Gender: Male
  Where born: Stoken Church Wallingford
  
  Civil parish: Chorleywood
  Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
  County/Island: Hertfordshire
  Country: England
  
  Registration district: Watford
  Sub-registration district: Rickmansworth
  ED, institution, or vessel: 12
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Household schedule number: 9
  Piece: 1322
  Folio: 55
  Page Number: 2
  Household Members: Name Age
  Charlotte Annie Halsey 50
  Samuel Halsey 12
  Joseph Halsey 9
  Daniel J Folly 58
  
  

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