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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
Hi all,
I trying to find out what happened to two of my Great x 2 grandfather's female siblings.
Sarah Margaret Folly was born 1858 at High Wycombe, Bucks and Emily Folly born 1859 in Hounslow.
Any help tracking them down would be much appreciated.
Regards
G -
Message 2
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
Could this be the Emily you are looking for with her family on the 1861 census:-
FOLLY, John Head Married M 35 1826 Master Baker
Middlesex
FOLLY, Mary Wife Married F 36 1825
Devonshire
FOLLY, Mary A Daughter F 13 1848
Middlesex
FOLLY, John Son M 11 1850
Middlesex
FOLLY, Charles Son M 9 1852
Middlesex
FOLLY, Henry Son M 5 1856
Scotland
FOLLY, Emily Daughter F 3 1858
Middlesex
DOLLING, William Servant Unmarried M 20 1841 Baker
Surrey
HARVEY, George Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Baker
Middlesex
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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
55 Folio:
42 Page:
34
Registration District:
Westminster Sub District:
2 St Margaret Enumeration District:
19 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Saints
Civil Parish:
St Margaret Municipal Borough:
Westminster Address:
21, Bakers Shop, Montpelier Row, St Margaret, Westminster County:
London, Middlesex -
Message 3
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
Could this be the Emily you are looking for with her family on the 1861 census:-
FOLLY, John Head Married M 35 1826 Master Baker
Middlesex
FOLLY, Mary Wife Married F 36 1825
Devonshire
FOLLY, Mary A Daughter F 13 1848
Middlesex
FOLLY, John Son M 11 1850
Middlesex
FOLLY, Charles Son M 9 1852
Middlesex
FOLLY, Henry Son M 5 1856
Scotland
FOLLY, Emily Daughter F 3 1858
Middlesex
DOLLING, William Servant Unmarried M 20 1841 Baker
Surrey
HARVEY, George Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Baker
Middlesex
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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
55 Folio:
42 Page:
34
Registration District:
Westminster Sub District:
2 St Margaret Enumeration District:
19 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Saints
Civil Parish:
St Margaret Municipal Borough:
Westminster Address:
21, Bakers Shop, Montpelier Row, St Margaret, Westminster County:
London, Middlesex
Μύ No sorry.
Wrong one :o( -
Message 4
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
Possible marriage for Emily:-
Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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FOLLY Emily Brentford 3a 146
MARTIN Christopher Thomas Brentford 3a 146
MASH Sarah Ann Brentford 3a 146
McELWAIN Alfred Brentford 3a 146
McELWAINE Alfred Brentford 3a 146 -
Message 5
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
Possible marriage for Emily:-
Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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FOLLY Emily Brentford 3a 146
MARTIN Christopher Thomas Brentford 3a 146
MASH Sarah Ann Brentford 3a 146
McELWAIN Alfred Brentford 3a 146
McELWAINE Alfred Brentford 3a 146
Μύ Yes i think this is more likely.
Does she appear on the 1891 and onwards ?
cheers -
Message 6
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
1881 census possible Emily born Hounslow:-
HESSENBORG, Frederick Head Married M 29 1852 Sugar Merchant
New York F S
United States
HESSENBORG, Grace Wife Married F 26 1855
Quebec
Canada
FOLLY, Emily Servant Single F 20 1861 Domestic Servant General
Hounslow
Middlesex
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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
843 Folio:
183 Page:
30
Registration District:
Richmond Sub District:
Richmond Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Richmond Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Hollies, Ormond Rd, Richmond County:
Surrey -
Message 7
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Thursday, 29th September 2011
Also found these marriages think there may be an error either on fmp or freebmd:-
Name: FOLLY, Emily
Registration District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 3A
Page No: 148
HUNT, Fredrick
MARSHALL, Harry
AYLIN, Lucy
ROLFE, Selina -
Message 8
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Friday, 30th September 2011
Thats her then living as a servant in 1881.
How can we confirm who Emily married ? Does she appear on the 1891 and 1901 census ?
Thanks for your help
G -
Message 9
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Friday, 30th September 2011
No luck ? Either for Emily or Sarah ?
G -
Message 10
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Friday, 30th September 2011
So far found nothing on 1891 or 1901 census goodness knows who Emily married. Will keep searching.
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Message 11
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Friday, 30th September 2011
Possible marriage for Emily:-
Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
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FOLLY Emily Brentford 3a 146
MARTIN Christopher Thomas Brentford 3a 146
MASH Sarah Ann Brentford 3a 146
McELWAIN Alfred Brentford 3a 146
McELWAINE Alfred Brentford 3a 146
Μύ Yes i think this is more likely.
Does she appear on the 1891 and onwards ?
cheers
Μύ Name: Emily Folly
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Christopher Thomas Martin
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Aug 1886
Parish: Holy Trinity
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hounslow
Father Name: Richard Folly
Spouse Father Name: Christopher Martin
Father Richard Folly is a Builder and there's a Charles Folly as one of the witnesses -
Message 12
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Friday, 30th September 2011
Don't know that they were married for long, sadly
Name: Christopher Martin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Age at Death: 31
Registration district: Richmond
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 280 -
Message 13
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Sunday, 2nd October 2011
Thanks MB.
Very sad. Can you see a re-marriage or does Emily appear on any census ? 1891 or 1901 ?
G -
Message 14
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Monday, 3rd October 2011
Find anything ?
Ive had a look for an Emily Marten on the 1891 but found nothing. She must be around under that name.
Does anyone else see her ?
G -
Message 15
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Monday, 3rd October 2011
I've had no luck yet Mr G , , even looking with a christian name only ....... I've got no access to Passenger lists to America , so wonder if she went abroad
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Message 16
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Thanks for your efforts.
Looking ahead to 1901, there are four possible Emily's born Hounslow on the 1901.
Emily Williams living Islewoth
Emily Turner living Edmonton
Emily Wright living Hurstpierpoint
Emily Hanson living Halifax
All the right age give or take a year and all checked through freebmd and may have been a Martin pre marriage.
Could anyone have a look at these to see if there are any clues?
G -
Message 17
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Emily Hanson in Halifax : There's 3 James Hansons marrying in Yorkshire , but brides Emily don't have Martin as surname
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Message 18
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Emily Williams living Islewoth
Husband is George Williams , but I can't see a Williams/Martin marriage or a Williams/Folly marriage -
Message 19
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Name: Emily Turner
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Horace Turner
Gender: Female
Where born: Hounslow, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Harmmersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 19 Saunders Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 63
Folio: 85
Page Number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Horace Turner 28
Emily Turner 24
Horace Turner 2
Kate Turner
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Message 20
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
I got interrupted and posted before adding that the Emily Turner info was from the 1881 census , so not the Emily Martin you are after
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Message 21
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Not looking good.
A quick look through the bmd index shows a Percy Christopher Martin born richmond surrey district in 1887. Could be a poss son? On the 1901 there is a percy c martin in battersea and a percy g martin in dorset.
Any of these show any clues?
G -
Message 22
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Name: Percy Edward G Martin
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1887
Registration district: Richmond
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 388 (click to see others on page)
Percy C Martin born Battersea in 1888 living in Battersea in 1901 is with parents Charles and Agnes
Similarly Percy G Martin is with parents Esther and William , he's born in Barnes -
Message 23
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Worth a try :o(
She seems to have disappeared.
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Message 24
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Re-opening this thread,
Did we get very far with Sarah Margaret Folly ? Emily was brilliant but has Sarah disappeared also ?
G -
Message 25
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
1871
Name: Sarah Folly
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Folly
Mother's Name: Caroline Folly
Gender: Female
Where born: Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Hounslow
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 1312
Folio: 133
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Folly 47
Caroline Folly 47
Susan Folly 24
Anne Folly 21
Frederick Folly 17
Robert Folly 16
Sarah Folly 14
Emily Folly 12
George Folly 10
Francis Folly 8
Charles Folly 6 -
Message 26
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Thats her
I cant find much on her after this census ? Can you work your magic ?
G -
Message 27
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Not having much luck so far ........... am taking a break to watch WDYTYA on Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ1 so will try later ........
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Message 28
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
me too
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Message 29
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
I got quite interested in this person - however having followed back (surname is Jutton I think) her name before that marriage was Hudson
Name: Sarah Letton
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William A Letton
Gender: Female
Where born: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Hounslow
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1025
Folio: 52
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
William A Letton 35
Sarah Letton 36
Elsie S Letton 9
Sarah B Letton 37 -
Message 30
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Curtis Lucy Elizabeth Wycombe 3a 622
Hudson Sarah Wycombe 3a 622 >>>>
Jutton William Ambrose Wycombe 3a 622>>>>
Munday George Wycombe 3a 622
Was hoping it was in London area , so could check the LMA records ! -
Message 31
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
There's a Sarah Hudson b Wycombe 1856 on 1861 so fairly sure it's not her. One ruled out anyway
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Message 32
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Wednesday, 12th October 2011
I know I've put the marriage up ,
but looking at the 1871 census there's a Sarah Hudson born 1854 in Wycombe, living with parents Thomas and Sarah in Wycombe , Sarah Folly is living in Isleworth in same census so I don't think it's the Sarah Mr G is after -
Message 33
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Thursday, 13th October 2011
Hard one this.
Can anyone see a death for her between 1871 and 1881 ? Maybe under Sarah or Margaret perhaps ? I cant, just wondered if i had missed something.
I'll have a look on the 1881 again :o(
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