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Evans help please 41 Census and beyond.

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  Posted by jack29p (U1877186) on Thursday, 29th September 2011

  HI all. Frustrated here Can anyone find this family in the 41 Census please
  
  I have William Evans aged 21, a weaver, marrying Winifred Oakes 20 in Kidderminster Register office July 1850. On the marriage certificate William gives his father as James a policeman and says he ( William) is living at Mount Pleasant Kidderminster. No note father is deceased, but I know thats not proof.
  The witnesses are Elizabeth Oakes ( sister I suspect) and Henry Broom.
  
  I can't find the Evans family on the 41 Census, nor can I find James if he is still alive on any Census William is living with his wifes family ( the Oakes's) in Kidderminster in 51 and then goes onto Shoreditch in London where he also becomes a policeman. So the policeman bit for his father rings true.
  
  The only other thing is that William's age does vary slightly, in that he could have been born ( according to the Censuses) as late as 1832. In fact the marriage is the earliest age, so I suspect he could have been as young as 17 or 18 when he got married. In the 51 Census he is 21 but in the 61 he is 29., 71 he is 38, 81 he is 49, 91 he is 58 and he dies in 1894 aged 62.
  
  If anyone can find the pair of them in 41 I would be very grateful

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Thursday, 29th September 2011

  Hi Jackie, I never like the 1841 census as it never gives enough information however I have found this possible for William Evans:-
  
  BENNETT, John M 53 1788 Worcestershire
  BENNETT, Charlotte F 40 1801 Worcestershire
  BENNETT, Sarah F 80 1761 Worcestershire
  BENNETT, William M 5 1836 Worcestershire
  TYLER, Ann F 20 1821 Worcestershire
  FIELD, William M 20 1821 Worcestershire
  BROADFIELD, Edward M 15 1826 Worcestershire
  EVANS, William M 10 1831 Worcestershire
  
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  RG number:
  HO107 Piece:
  1208 Book/Folio:
  4/32 Page:
  27
  
  Registration District:
  Kidderminster Sub District:
  Kidderminster Enumeration District:
  Ecclesiastical Parish:
  
  
  Civil Parish:
  Kidderminster Municipal Borough:
  Kidderminster Address:
  Blackwell Street, Kidderminster County:
  Worcestershire
  
  

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  Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Thursday, 29th September 2011

  I know this is a long shot but could William have been away at the Bennetts in 1841 and this is James the father on the 1841:-
  
  EVANS, James M 40 1801 Worcestershire
  EVANS, Elisebeth F 55 1786 Worcestershire
  EVANS, James M 15 1826 Worcestershire
  KIRBY, John M 6 1835 Worcestershire
  
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  RG number:
  HO107 Piece:
  1197 Book/Folio:
  12/7 Page:
  7
  
  Registration District:
  Kidderminster Sub District:
  Kidderminster Enumeration District:
  Ecclesiastical Parish:
  
  
  Civil Parish:
  Kidderminster Foreign Municipal Borough:
  Kidderminster Address:
  Hoo Lane, Kidderminster Foreign, Kidderminster County:
  Worcestershire
  
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by jack29p (U1877186) on Thursday, 29th September 2011

  Thanks Bertie, not sure about those I will have a look. I have just seen that the new Family Search have a William Thomas Evans baptised Kidderminster 16 Jul 1832 to a James and Ann Evans

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  Posted by jack29p (U1877186) on Thursday, 29th September 2011

  Bertie, I am not sure the surname for William is Evans in that image in the 41 Census living with the Bennetts,

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  Posted by jack29p (U1877186) on Thursday, 29th September 2011

  Think I have found the Evans family in 41 but wouldnt mind a 2nd opinion please
  
  Think they may be here
  1841 England Census
  about Ann Evans Name: Ann Evans
  Age: 40
  Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
  Gender: Female
  Where born: Worcestershire, England
  
  Civil parish: Kidderminster
  Hundred: Kidderminster
  County/Island: Worcestershire
  Country: England
  
  Street Address:
  
  Occupation: View image
  
  Registration district: Kidderminster
  Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
  Neighbors: View others on page
  Piece: 1208
  Book: 2
  Folio: 9
  Page Number: 11
  Household Members: Name Age
  Ann Evans 40
  Ann Evans 10
  William Evans 5
  John Evans 2
  
  
  
  Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1208; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Kidderminster; County: Worcestershire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 9; Page: 11; Line: 15; GSU roll: 464214.
  
  Although it says William is 5 it looks like it may have been 8 originally which would fit with an 1832 birth. There also appears to be a baptism for William as I said in the message 4 above. Ann is said to be Independent. It seems that Duke Street where the family are is near to Mount Pleasant, where William is when he marries in 1850
  
  In 1851, Ann is with John and described as a widow, so it may well be that James the father died before the 41 Census, although as a policeman it may be that he was elsewhere in the country and I just cant find him.
  
  Cant find Ann after 51 she may have remarried
  
  Anyway, what do people think.
  
  
  
  
  
  

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