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Message 1.Β
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
I am trying to trace backwards this family of Jacksons:
1891 England Census
about Joseph Jackson
Name: Joseph Jackson
Age: 6/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Jackson
Mother's Name: Florence Jackson
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2388
Folio: 60
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Jackson 26
Florence Jackson 21
Elsy Jackson 1
Joseph Jackson 6/12
John Jackson 14
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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2388; Folio 60; Page 2; GSU roll: 6097498.
Source Information:
Now the mother is Florence F E Crompton, i had a look before at the Jackson and came up with a John or Joseph Austin Jackson along the way, but cannot find the link now, I know this line may not be tracable without certs, but am trying for a friend, any help gratefully recieved. -
Message 2
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
This could be your Joseph in 1881 with his parents and siblings including the brother John who was with him on the 1891 census:
JACKSON, Joseph Head Married M 42 1839 Brassfounder Wolverhampton
JACKSON, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1841 Dudley Worcestershire
JACKSON, Joseph Son Single M 17 1864 Brassfounder Birmm Warwickshire
JACKSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 6 1875 Milkhouse Girl Birm Warwickshire
JACKSON, Eleanor Daughter Single F 2 1879 Birmm Warwickshire
JACKSON, John Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Birmm Warwickshire
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2996 Folio: 60 Page: 6
Registration District: Birmingham Sub District: St George Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Birmingham Municipal Borough: Address: 9, Court 3 House, Newtown Row, Birmingham County: Warwickshire -
Message 3
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Hello windsufing, that census got my interest too, looks likely. Thank you.
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Message 4
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Joseph's marriage:
Name: JACKSON, Joseph
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 6D
Page No: Help 183
CROMPTON, Florence Frances E was married in same district in same quarter so almost certainly these are your Joseph and Florence. -
Message 5
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Yes Windsufing and this her death:
Deaths Jun 1928 (>99%)
Jackson Florence F E 59 Birmingham N. 6d 449 -
Message 6
Posted by gnatalee (U1758936) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Hi
There is a tree on A***try giving detail of this family.
It gives Florence as Florence F Crompton, as you state in your mesage. It also gives the parents of Joseph Jackson, and also the parents of Joseph's father. So, someone is also researching your family.
Don't know if you have access to the site, may be worth taking temporary membership to contact owner of the tree.
Gnats -
Message 7
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Here is the family in 1871:
JACKSON, Joseph Head M 32 1839 Staffordshire
JACKSON, Eliza Wife F 30 1841 Staffordshire
JACKSON, Joseph Son M 7 1864 Warwickshire
JACKSON, Eliza Daughter F 6 1865 Warwickshire
JACKSON, Eleanor Daughter F 2 1869 Warwickshire
RG number: RG10 Piece: 3135 Folio: 62 Page: 29
Registration District: Aston Sub District: Deritend Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Back Of Darwin Street Court House Royal Oak, Aston, Birmingham County: Warwickshire -
Message 8
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Hello Gnatalee
I don't have access to trees on ancestry, are we on the right track? -
Message 9
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Thanks Windsufing.
Is the Royal Oak a pub? The Cromptons had pub connections around that area. -
Message 10
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
I don't know but Joseph senior's occupation is gas chandelier maker (1871),
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Message 11
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Joseph senior in 1861? (His birth county being Staffordshire and now in Aston seems to point to this being your man):
TRAVLER, David Head Married M 36 1825 Brassfounder Kings Norton Worcestershire
TRAVLER, Mary Wife Married F 27 1834 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
TRAVLER, Alfred Son M 9 1852 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
TRAVLER, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar Birmingham Warwickshire
TRAVLER, Joseph Son M 2 1859 Birmingham Warwickshire
JACKSON, Joseph Brother Unmarried M 23 1838 Brass Founder ... Staffordshire
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RG number: RG09 Piece: 2170 Folio: 105 Page: 24
Registration District: Aston Sub District: 1 Deritend Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: 77, Lombard Street, Aston, Birmingham County: Warwickshire -
Message 12
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
The tree on Ancestry says it's Eliza Cartwight as the bride
Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)
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CARTWRIGHT Eliza Birmingham 6d 207
EVENS Eliza Birmingham 6d 207
JACKSON Joseph Birmingham 6d 207
WARD Edwin Birmingham 6d 207 -
Message 13
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Thanks Windsufing and Jan.
This seems to be them on the 51:
1851 England Census
about Joseph Jackson
Name: Joseph Jackson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Jackson
Mother's Name: Louisa Jackson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1bb
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 2018
Folio: 534
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jackson 44
Louisa Jackson 43
Edward Jackson 19
Joseph Jackson 12
Maria Jackson 10
John Jackson 5
Frances Jackson 1
Mary Tranter 18
David Tranter 28
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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2018; Folio: 534; Page: 23; GSU roll: 87421. -
Message 14
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
1851 Elizas' family ,
Name: Eliza Cartwright
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos Cartwright
Mother's Name: Ann Cartwright
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: Dudley
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1r
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2032
Folio: 468
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Cartwright 39
Ann Cartwright 34
Hannah Cartwright 16
Thos Cartwright 14
Eliza Cartwright 12
Maryanne Cartwright 10
Sarah Cartwright 7
Harriet Cartwright 5
Jno Cartwright 2
Elizth Cartwright 6 MO
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2032; Folio: 468; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87439. -
Message 15
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Thanks Jan.
So Eliza was telling porkies abt her age! -
Message 16
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Seems David Trantor married a Jackson:
Groom's Name: David Tranter
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Ann Jackson
Bride's Birth Date: 1834
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 17
Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1851
Marriage Place: Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Tranter
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Jackson
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16761-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1517620
Reference Number: -
Message 17
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 18th September 2011
Wonder if this is the marriage of William Jackson :
Search Record Details
County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 17 Nov 1828
GroomForename William
GroomSurname JACKSON
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Louisa
BrideSurname PERRY
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Mary Ann
WitnessOneSurname PERRY
WitnessTwoForename John
WitnessTwoSurname BIDDULPH
Notes Banns
FileNumber 4207
And Louisa was umarried at David Tranters birth. -
Message 18
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Monday, 19th September 2011
Joseph senior in 1861? (His birth county being Staffordshire and now in Aston seems to point to this being your man):
TRAVLER, David Head Married M 36 1825 Brassfounder Kings Norton Worcestershire
TRAVLER, Mary Wife Married F 27 1834 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
TRAVLER, Alfred Son M 9 1852 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
TRAVLER, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar Birmingham Warwickshire
TRAVLER, Joseph Son M 2 1859 Birmingham Warwickshire
JACKSON, Joseph Brother Unmarried M 23 1838 Brass Founder ... Staffordshire
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RG number: RG09 Piece: 2170 Folio: 105 Page: 24
Registration District: Aston Sub District: 1 Deritend Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: 77, Lombard Street, Aston, Birmingham County: Warwickshire Β Have looked at the 1861 census entry again and find that TRAVLER is a mis-transcription. On the original it is definitely TRANTOR. -
Message 19
Posted by Brenda (U15039796) on Tuesday, 29th November 2011
Hi,
I'm also trying to find the Jackson family, I.e. my father Frederick Jackson, born 1909. On his death certificate place of birth Selly Oak, Birmingham. If you have any details you think might help me, I would be very pleased, as nowhere can I find him on the websites.
Thank you, Brenda -
Message 20
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Tuesday, 29th November 2011
Brenda someone may send her a message as she still is a board member and has a few contacts here.
Edna -
Message 21
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Tuesday, 29th November 2011
Hello Brenda. I am not sure your Frederick is part of the same Jackson family i was researching, for a friend, not my family.
Do you have his birth cert? This Jackson family was from the Aston area. -
Message 22
Posted by Brenda (U15039796) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011
Hi
No I cannot find him in the births on any website, but have death certificate & quotes Sellyoak as birth place. So cannot get any further. thanks.
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