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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Hi all,
Im trying to find the following on the 1841 and 1851 census.
James Boylett b 1809 Baptised Ealing, Middx and his brother Richard b1811 Baptised Ealing.
Their parents were James and Labourer and Ann. They lived around the Brentford, Ealing area. Are their parents around in 1841 and 1851 ?
Im trying to find out whether the James Boylett b1809 is the same man that signed up for the East india Company Army in 1828 and sailed for India in 1829 and staying out there having a family.
I do know that James and Richard also had two brothers, William henry and George born 1817 and 1820 respectivly in Brentford.
Any help appreciated
G
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Message 2
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
How abuot this lot?
1851
Name: James Boylett
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Boylett
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Chertsey, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Ealing
Town: Brentford
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 1699
Folio: 361
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
James Boylett 71 - labourer on parish relief
Ann Boylett 73 - b Bowden, Oxon
John Boylett 36 - coal porter b Brentford
Thomas Gunnell 34 - son inlaw, gas works stoker, b Marlow
Cecilia Gunnell 43 - daughter b Brentford
Ann Gunnell 10
John Gunnell 9
William Gunnell 7
Charles Gunnell 6
Isaac Gunnell 3
James Gunnell 5 MO -
Message 3
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
1841 this could be parents James and Ann in Ealing if the ages are correct(ish)
James Boylett
60
Anne Boylett
60
Georgiana Davidson
14
Lydia Highly
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Message 4
Posted by Marymog (U2978107) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
1841 England Census about James Boylett
Name: James Boylett
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Ealing
Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: High St Old Brentford
Occupation: Coalheaver??
View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 689
Book: 5
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
James Boylett 60
Anne Boylett 60
Georgiana Davidson 14
Lydia Highly 60 -
Message 5
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Note the 1851 shows another brother John born abt 1815.
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Message 6
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Can't see young James or Richard on a census I'm afraid but this could be the death for Ann.
Deaths Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Boylett Ann Brentford 3a 35 -
Message 7
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Brilliant info great.
I had hoped that james wasn't about on the census' as I think its the james I'm looking for and he had gone to india by that point.
Just to follow this through, can anyone find james snr on the 1861? I can't find a death entry for him either.
I have found a death entry for Richard which would fit. This was in 1876 in brentford. Does he appear on any census?
Finally, does John appear on any census'? Does he marry?
Thanks in advance
G -
Message 8
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Can't see James snr in 1861. There is this death in 1862 in Surrey but if he is yours (or even if he isn't!) he should be somewhere in 1861.
Deaths Mar 1862 (>99%)
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BOYLETT James Guildford 2a 29 -
Message 9
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
This could be Richard in 1861. The other 2 people are daughter and grandson.
Richard Boylett
49
Charlotte Boylett
55
Elizabeth Simpson
23
Richard Simpson
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Message 10
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Possible for John in 1861. He is a lodger and unmarried.
Name:
John Boylet
Age:
47
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1814
Relation:
Lodger
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Old Brentford, Middlesex, England
Civil parish:
Ealing -
Message 11
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Can't see him in 1871 but there is this death in 1864 and he was 49 so that would fit.
Deaths Jun 1864 (>99%)
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Boylett John Brentford 3a 29 -
Message 12
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Think I've found death for James snr in 1856 aged 77.
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Message 13
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
This could be Richard in 1861. The other 2 people are daughter and grandson.
Richard Boylett
49
Charlotte Boylett
55
Elizabeth Simpson
23
Richard Simpson
3 MO
Μύ Thanks for the extra info
Do you have the full 1861 transciption for this chap ? I cant find a marriage for them, i get find a birth for their daughter and i cant find anything for Charlotte after Richard dies.
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Message 14
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Yes and Charlotte is listed as wife but I couldn't find a marriage either
Says she is born Buckland Berks.
Daughter born Sampton? Middlesex
Grandson born Houndslow Middlesex
They are living Isleworth can't read street name - 5 Thornsomething.
He is a labourer she something to do with laundry. -
Message 15
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Yes and Charlotte is listed as wife but I couldn't find a marriage either
Says she is born Buckland Berks.
Daughter born Sampton? Middlesex
Grandson born Houndslow Middlesex
They are living Isleworth can't read street name - 5 Thornsomething.
He is a labourer she something to do with laundry.Μύ Could that be Lampton ? -
Message 16
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Yes and Charlotte is listed as wife but I couldn't find a marriage either
Says she is born Buckland Berks.
Daughter born Sampton? Middlesex
Grandson born Houndslow Middlesex
They are living Isleworth can't read street name - 5 Thornsomething.
He is a labourer she something to do with laundry.Μύ There are also no Richard Simpsons born in Hounslow around that time. -
Message 17
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Possible 1841?
Name: Richard Boglett
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Ealing
Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 689
Book: 5
Folio: 49
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Boglett 25
Ann Boglett 3
Looks like Ann and ELizabeth are one and the same
Name: Ann Elizabeth Boylett
Spouse Name: Walter Simpson - private, grenadier guards
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1859
Parish: Holy Trinity
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hounslow
Father Name: Richard Boylett
Spouse Father Name: William Simpson -
Message 18
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Ok found the marriage of the daughter Ann Elizabeth Boylett father Richard to Walter Simpson 26 Dec 1859. He is a private 1st battalion fathers name William.
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Message 19
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Now she is Elizabeth Ann born 1838 to Richard and Elizabeth but in view of the name switching she could be Charlotte as well!
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Message 20
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Yes and Charlotte is listed as wife but I couldn't find a marriage either
Says she is born Buckland Berks.
Daughter born Sampton? Middlesex
Grandson born Houndslow Middlesex
They are living Isleworth can't read street name - 5 Thornsomething.
He is a labourer she something to do with laundry.Μύ There are also no Richard Simpsons born in Hounslow around that time.
Μύ The little one is baptised as Walter Richard 30 March 1861 Hounslow Heath. -
Message 21
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
I was wondering if this is Elizabeth mother of Richard's children (there's an Ann b1837 baptised - wonder if she died) on 1841
Name: Elizabeth Boylett
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Civil parish: New Brentford
Hundred: Elthorne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 655
Book: 1
Folio: 44
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Boylett 30 -
Message 22
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
So are Richard and Elizabeth living apart ?
Who is Charlotte ? -
Message 23
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Maybe just apart on census night - Elizabeth was a servant
Possible marriage?
Groom's Name: Richard Boylett
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Whiting
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1832
Marriage Place: Thames Ditton,Surrey,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04059-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 808496
Reference Number:
Looks like Elizabeth is Charlotte! 1851 - Ancestry has the age wrong, he is 38
Name: Richard Boylet
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Boylet
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Brentford, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Hounslow
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 189
Piece: 1698
Folio: 26
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Boylet 58 - labourer in brickfield
Elizabeth Boylet 43 - b Buckland, Berks laundress
Elizabeth Boylet 12
Thomas Jackson 39 - visitor b Datchett
Rosannah Jackson 48 - visitor b Chalvey? Bucks
[Mary Ann Bunker 48 - actually next door] -
Message 24
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Not found 1871, but here's 1881
Name: Elizth. Boylett
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckland, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Richmond Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Laundress
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1338
Folio: 67
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizth. Boylett 77
Name: Elizabeth Boylett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 37 -
Message 25
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Great
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Message 26
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Could anyone pull up the page on the 1841 census for Abraham Boylett born in Middx ? And that of a Major Boylett. Trying to establish a connect to this family plus James that volunteered to joing the army and head to Indis.
Thanks in advance.
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Message 27
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Is this the one yuo want (there's also a father and son in Woking)
Name: Abrm Doylett
[Abraham Boylett]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls and Trinity
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 675
Book: 14
Folio: 32
Page Number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
Abrm Doylett 6
Not sure why the household is all separate
Thiere is
Henry - 45, fishmonger
William 15
Major ?? - 11 (male)
Thomas - 8
Abraham 6
Elizabeth - 40
Elizabeth - 80
This is the same family in 1851 - suggesting Byron for Major, although the image doesn't convince me. All b Middlesex apart from Henry
Name: Henry Boylitt
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabth Boylitt
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 334
Piece: 1486
Folio: 819
Page Number: 60
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Boylitt 55 - b Surrey
Elizabth Boylitt 50
Bryon Boylitt 18
Thomas Boylitt 16
Abvehan Boylitt 14
John Boylitt 9 -
Message 28
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
1841 there is this lot of Doyletts/Boyletts
Henry 45 - looks like fishmonger
William 15
Major 11
Thomas 8
Abraham 6
Elizabeth 40
Elizabeth 80 -
Message 29
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
This suggests it was Major
Name: Major Boylett
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1831
Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1831
Father's Name: Henry Boylett
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Boylett
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster -
Message 30
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Abraham in 1861
Henry Boylett - widowed fishmonger
66
Thomas Boylett - labourer
26
Abraham Boylett - smith
24
John Boylett - fishmonger
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Message 31
Posted by Tourmie (U13798934) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Name:
Abraham Boylett
Record Type:
Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:
abt 1839
Baptism Date:
30 Jun 1839
Father's Name:
Henry Boylett
Mother's Name:
Elizabeth Boylett
Parish or Poor Law Union:
St Marylebone
Borough:
Westminster -
Message 32
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
Henry was b Chertsey c1795 according to 1861, which suggests this baptism
name: Henry Boylett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Aug 1794
baptism/christening place: CHERTSEY, SURREY, ENGLAND
father's name: George Boylett
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C01723-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:
Possible siblings - all from Chertsey
name: Elizabeth Boylett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 18 Feb 1781
name: George Boylett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Mar 1782
name: Sarah Boylett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Mar 1783
name: Jenny Boylett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 May 1784
name: William Boylett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Nov 1785
name: Ann Boylett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 18 Mar 1787
name: Henry Boylett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Aug 1794
name: Hannah Boylett
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 18 Feb 1798 -
Message 33
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011
If yuo are looking to connect James b 1780 from the OP, to Henry & Abraham you may have to go back further
name: James Boylett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Feb 1780
baptism/christening place: CHERTSEY, SURREY, ENGLAND
father's name: James Boylett
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01723-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: -
Message 34
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Thursday, 15th September 2011
Thanks everyone!
There is a connection for sure but this confirms that James born 1809 could not be from this other branch so I feel sure he belonged to James and Ann as there are no other boyletts born in middx on the 1841m
G
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