Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ

Family TreesΒ  permalink

non-conformist cemetery query

• Message 1.Β 

  Posted by callmecharlie (U14976684) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  Morning all... just a quick query.
  
  I have a 3x great gran who was buried in a non-conformist cemetery in 1850. Although she married an Irish Catholic (in a C of E church), and her children were baptised and brought up as Catholics, I have never known her religious denomination but as she was born in B'ham around 1807-1808 I have always assumed that she came from English stock and was a C of E (I'm unsure of her parentage as there are a few possibilities).
  
  My query is whether it would be usual that she was buried in a non-conformist cemetery if she was a C of E... the cemetery by the way is Key Hill Cem in Birmingham which was just around the corner from the house where she lived and died when another 'general' cemetery, also round the corner (Warstone Lane) opened in 1848?
  
  Thanks
  
  Charlie

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message1

• Message 2

  , in reply to message 1.

  Posted by callmecharlie (U14976684) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  I'm still under moderation so my messages are taking a short while to come through but just in case anyone's wondering who I'm talking about, my gt gt gran was Catharine Allen who married Thomas Cannon on 24 Aug 1828 at St Martin's in what is now the Bull Ring in Birmingham.
  
  She died in February 1850 age 42 so I reckon she was born around 1807-1808 (although this is obviously not cast in stone).
  
  The nearest matching entries on the IGI are
  
  Catherine Allen Christened 21 May 1807 at St Phillip's in Birmingham - her parents were Robert and Betty (Elizabeth?) but their names don't tally with the names given to Thomas and Catharine's children.
  
  and
  
  Catharine Allen b. 21 Jan 1805, Christened 7 June 1805 at St Martin's - her parents were William and Ann whose names are more likely but the date is a bit early.
  
  Charlie

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message2

• Message 3

  , in reply to message 2.

  Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  Was it attached to a non-conformist church? Or was it actually a Municipal Cemetery?
  My first thought is that the church graveyard was full and they had stopped using it.

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message3

• Message 4

  , in reply to message 3.

  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  Maybe she converted to RC at some point? Were they buried in the same plot, maybe it was a wish to be buried together.
  
  My Husband's grandparents were mixed denominations and they are buried at opposite ends of the municiple cemetery. Father in the CofE end, died first and Irish Mother in the RC end in amongst the children. I have always got the impression thats just as they would have wanted it too

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message4

• Message 5

  , in reply to message 4.

  Posted by callmecharlie (U14976684) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  Hello JC
  
  I laughed out loud at your surmisation (if that's the right word) of your hubby's lot happy not to have been buried together...
  
  But no, my Catharine was buried alone in the plot, if fact none of her children or her widowed husband (who soon after her death married again) are buried in the same cemetery.
  
  Charlie

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message5

• Message 6

  , in reply to message 3.

  Posted by callmecharlie (U14976684) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  Hello raundsgirl
  
  It wasn't attached to any church, it was a 'general' cemetery and one of the first non-conformist burial grounds to be opened in Brum.
  
  Charlie
  

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message6

• Message 7

  , in reply to message 6.

  Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011

  Ah, well it's not a 'non-conformist' cemetery, Charlie. That would mean it was the graveyard of a 'Non-Conformist' church like the Methodists or the Baptists, or Quakers. They were called 'Non-Conformists' because they didn't 'conform' to the Church of England.
  I think what you mean is that it was a Municipal cemetery, that is, one run by the council, where people of any or no religion could be buried.

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message7

• Message 8

  , in reply to message 7.

  Posted by callmecharlie (U14976684) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011

  thanks... was a bit confused because on bmsgh.org website it does say it was one of the first non-conformist burial grounds in Brum... it answers my question if any denomination could be buried there though
  
  charlie

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message8

• Message 9

  , in reply to message 8.

  Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011

  
  
  It says it was favoured by non conformists but because of its style but open to all denominations.
  
  Edna

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message9

• Message 10

  , in reply to message 9.

  Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Wednesday, 14th September 2011

  Ah, all is clear. Thanks, Edna. That link was most interesting. It wasn't very far from where I lived when I worked in Birmingham.

  Link to this forum: non-conformist cemetery query

  Report message10

Back to top