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Message 1.Β
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
1901 England Census
about James A Crompton
Name: James A Crompton
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Crompton
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Piece: 2834
Folio: 170
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
James A Crompton 54
Mary A Crompton 49
Herbert H Crompton 20
Edith M Crompton 18
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Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2834; Folio: 170; Page: 29.
Can someone please read the occupation of James, also this seems to be his 2nd wife? but the only marriage that fits in the 1890s is I think his son, James Alfred.. I cannot see a death for 1st wife Emily. Thank you. -
Message 2
Posted by SPJ (U7555985) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
I think the occupation is 'Beer Retailer'
Re 2nd wife - 1891 his wife was Polly - I think this is a derivative of Mary Ann - so maybe same wife? -
Message 3
Posted by dmatt47 (U13073434) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
I think that his occupation is beer retailer, it s rather badly written, but the occupation abbreviation seems to be Pub (ie publican). I think you have two marriages as the age of his wives in 1891 and 1901 are very.different.
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Message 4
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
thank you both very much. On previous census wife was Emily, there is a marriage in West Brom to her.Shall do some more digging.
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Message 5
Posted by SPJ (U7555985) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
There is this death - fits with age of Emily
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Deaths Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Crompton Emma 38 Birmingham 6d 93
Could Emma be Emily? -
Message 6
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Thanks, got myself confused then, Emily is on the 1881 census, but that death looks likely.
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Message 7
Posted by SPJ (U7555985) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Possible for 2nd marriage?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
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CROMPTON James Aston 6d 507
EDWARDS Ann Aston 6d 507
JENKINS James Aston 6d 507
STEVENS Mary Aston 6d 507 -
Message 8
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
On the 1891, does it say The Globe Inn?
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Message 9
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
re a possible 2nd marriage
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
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CROMPTON James Aston 6d 507
EDWARDS Ann Aston 6d 507
JENKINS James Aston 6d 507
STEVENS Mary Aston 6d 507 -
Message 10
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
On the 1891, does it say The Globe Inn? Β Yes it does Sheron
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Message 11
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Thans Jan and SPJ.
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Message 12
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Here's a find!
Groom's Name: James Crompton
Groom's Birth Date: 1847
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 41
Bride's Name: Mary Stevens
Bride's Birth Date: 1850
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 38
Marriage Date: 21 Jun 1888
Marriage Place: Sparkbrook, Warwick, England
Groom's Father's Name: Robert Albert Crompton
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: William Murphy
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00731-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1520095
Reference Number: it 5, p 55, no 109 -
Message 13
Posted by SPJ (U7555985) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Wow - lovely find
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Message 14
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Yes but can't find him on the 51 census, there is a James on the 61 but with a step dad.
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Message 15
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Here's the 1861
Name: Ann Gee
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Gee
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 2184
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gee 47
Ann Gee 53
Amilia Gee 15
Sarah A Gee 12
Eleanor Gee 8
Thomas Gee 6
Albert Crompton 16
James Crompton 14 <<<<
Harry Crompton 12
This seems the most likely marriage
Marriages Dec 1857 W Bromwich 6b 861 (>99%)
Crompton Ann
Gee Thomas
Green William
Morris Susannah
Possible from 1841
Name: Ann Crompton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: St George
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1141
Book: 9
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Crompton 35 - button M
Ann Crompton 30
Mary Crompton 10
Emelia Crompton 8
Clara Crompton 4
Cyrus Crompton 2
Have found Cyrus alive and well in 1861, but not on 1851 - pity as the name's a good one to track them down with! -
Message 16
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Think this is James - despite the transcription! - given it's actually a son
Address looks like Walsall Road - Park Tavern?
Name: Emma Cumpton
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Cumpton
Mother's Name: Ann Cumpton
Where born: Birm, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Town: Aston Manor
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 2062
Folio: 87
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cumpton 44 - retail beer seller and button maker
Ann Cumpton 43
Mary Ann Cumpton 20
Emily Cumpton 18
Clara Cumpton 14
Christi Cumpton 12
Albert Cumpton 7
Emma Cumpton 4
Henry Cumpton 2 -
Message 17
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
And possibly back another generation. Living next door to Robert on 1841
Name: Ledy Crompton
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: St George
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1141
Book: 9
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Ledy Crompton 60
Elizabeth Crompton 20
on 1851
Name: Lydia P Crompton
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham St George
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 2058
Folio: 210
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Lydia P Crompton 70 - schoolmistress b Aston
Cyrus F Crompton 37 - son. widower, chaser
Elizabeth Crompton 30 - daughter, single
Naomi Crompton 12 - grand daughter
Sarah Crompton 10 - grand daughter
Edward Price 9 - nephew
The two grand daughters are children of a John Crompton -
Message 18
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Ohh get that name Cyrus!! Now I'm sure I have seen that somehwere!! Many thanks great stuff!!
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Message 19
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Lydia?
Deaths Sep 1858 (>99%)
CROMPTON Lydia Phillips Aston 6d 189 -
Message 20
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Could anyone please find James Crompton on the 1911 please, he had a son the same name, married to a Kate Lucrezia, so might be 2 of them. Thank you.
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Message 21
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Is this the son in 1911?
CROMPTON, James Head Married M 38 1873 Copper Kettle Maker Bham Warwickshire
CROMPTON, Kate Wife Married 15 years F 35 1876 Bham Warwickshire
CROMPTON, Edith Daughter F 14 1897 Jewe Case Coverer Bham Warwickshire
CROMPTON, Doris Daughter F 12 1899 School Bham Warwickshire
CROMPTON, James Son M 9 1902 Bham Warwickshire
CROMPTON, Albert Son M 5 1906 Bham Warwickshire
CROMPTON, Frederick Son M 6 1905 Bham Warwickshire -
Message 22
Posted by glenton74 (U6667751) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
No obvious sign of his father.
Should have added this to previous message
Address:
8 Hayden Place Cuthbert Road Birmingham -
Message 23
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Is this the 1847 James ?
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Message 24
Posted by sheronb (U3487282) on Tuesday, 13th September 2011
Yes Jan it is.
Yes Glen that's the son. He dies in the 1920s and there is a will with him leaving Β£800 to his wife!! Can't see a death for his father though. Many thanks both of you.
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