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1851 Census - Somerset.
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Message 1.Μύ
Posted by Syljun (U3878472) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Having trouble with Find my Past. Bought credits on Friday after re-registering. Payment confirmed but now cannot see payment in account and cannot search for info. on Census so waiting for help tomorrow.
In meantime could sks look up 1851 Census for Mary Tutton age 40 c.1811 Shipham please.
Anxious to know all children as info. given to me Husband supposed to have died 1839.
Getting all mixed up but grateful for any info. to help sort it out. Thanks Syljun -
Message 2
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Think this is her she's down as a Pauper and Unmarried, Son Samuel is an Ag Lab
Name: Mary A Tuttam
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Shipham, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Shipham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Axbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 1937
Folio: 124
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Tuttam 40
Samuel Tuttam 16 son
Joseph Tuttam 12 son
Ellen Tuttam 4 daughter
Mary A Tuttam 1 daughter
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1937; Folio: 124; Page: 23; GSU roll: 221096. -
Message 3
Posted by silvery (U8422462) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Are we talking about Somerset?
Have you anything more to go on, can we see her in another census? -
Message 4
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
1841 Mary is down as IND for occupation
Name: Samuel Fulton
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil parish: Shipham
Hundred: Winterstoke
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Axbridge
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 968
Book: 6
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Fulton 29
Sidney Fulton 8
Samuel Fulton 5
Joseph Fulton 3
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 968; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Shipham; County: Somerset; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 24; GSU roll: 474608. -
Message 5
Posted by silvery (U8422462) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Yes, of course, you said Somerset in the heading. Jan seems to have them. Can't pin them down in the 1841.
Maybe someone else will. -
Message 6
Posted by Syljun (U3878472) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Many thanks.
Still confused. did the 1841 Census say if she was married or widowed. I had info given to me that her husband buried 1839. It must be wrong if two daughters Ellen and Mary born. syljun -
Message 7
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Unfortunately the 1841 census didn't give relationships , or whether people were married widowed or single , or either a persific place of birth , just whether they were born ' in county' or not
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Message 8
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Many thanks.
Still confused. did the 1841 Census say if she was married or widowed. I had info given to me that her husband buried 1839. It must be wrong if two daughters Ellen and Mary born. syljun
Μύ She could have been married and widowed before 1841 , and the 2 little girls are from a relationship , there's a big gap between the sons and daughters on 1851 -
Message 9
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
There is a Samuel Tutton buried 11th Sept 1839 at Shipham aged 31. As stated earlier, the other children could be from a different relationship. Big age gap there.
Jo -
Message 10
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
From Freereg
County Somerset
Place Shipham
Church St Leonard
RegisterNumber 623
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 17 Aug 1845
Forename Ellen
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Marianne
FatherSurname
MotherSurname TUTTEN
Abode Shipham
FatherOccupation
Notes Illegitimate daughter of Widow. In margin "see No. 747"
FileNumber 11207
Jo -
Message 11
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
And this
County Somerset
Place Shipham
Church St Leonard
RegisterNumber 747
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 24 Oct 1853
Forename Ellen
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Marianne
FatherSurname
MotherSurname TUTTEN
Abode Shipham
FatherOccupation
Notes Illegitimate daughter of Widow. In margin vid No.623
FileNumber 11207
Jo -
Message 12
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Samuel juniors baptism , showing father as a Samuel Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Jan 1835
Baptism/Christening Place: Shipham, Somerset, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Tutton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05215-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470976
Reference Number: item 5 D/D/RR 371A
JO , Just noticed that the date that you found for a Samuel Tuttons burial is todays date ........... how uncanny is that ! -
Message 13
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Actually there are quite a few Tuttons in Shipham on Freereg, very much transcribed, including a Marianne burial in 1853 aged 45. Plus Ellens buried as children. 1855 aged 7 and 1846 aged 2.
Certianly worth a look
Jo -
Message 14
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Wonder if this is the one year old on 1851 census
1861 Sarah Tripp is born Shipham , and Ann is another granddaughter
Name: Mary Ann Tutton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Shipham, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Shipham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image
Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Axbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 1675
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Tripp 73
Ann Heal 23
Mary Ann Tutton 10>>>.. -
Message 15
Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
This marriage fits with the Tripp family
County Somerset
Place Dundry
Church St Michael's
RegisterNumber 121
MarriageDate 02 Jul 1832
GroomForename Samuel
GroomSurname TUTTON
GroomAge
GroomParish Dundry
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Mary Ann
BrideSurname TRIPP
BrideAge
BrideParish Dundry
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Joyce
WitnessOneSurname MILES
WitnessTwoForename George
WitnessTwoSurname TAYLOR
Notes
FileNumber 11138
Jo -
Message 16
Posted by Syljun (U3878472) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
Thank you all, Brilliant work. Samuel must be the 1839 Burial. what a coincidence today's date. I had purchased the 1850 Death Cert for a Samuel Tutton which was of course wrong so was reluctant to buy the 1839,now knowing his actual burial is good.
As to Ellen and Mary I can at least add them as children of Mother Mary Ann.
There are a lot of Tuttons which has been a nightmare to unravel who was who. Mother Mary Ann was a Tripp. Another nightmare family.
Thank you once again. Syljun -
Message 17
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
you might want to take a look at the following website, its has the prs transcribed in an easy to read format
www.thomasgenweb.com/shipham_parish_records.html -
Message 18
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Sunday, 11th September 2011
I should add, the curate has added beautiful "helpful" notes which are included in the above site
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Message 19
Posted by Syljun (U3878472) on Monday, 12th September 2011
Thanks everyone for help in sorting out Tutton family.
jc I do keep that web-site in my Fa vourites and it is extremely helpful.
Unfortunately not many Marriages.Still looking for George Tutton and Hannah ?
Syljun
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