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Message 1.Β
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
On the 1891 census I have the following:
Minnie F Pearce age 9, (b Sep 1881 Fulham 1a 187)
Julia E Pearce age 8
They are the children of Louisa Westwood Braithwaite and William George Pearce (Married 1880, Fulham)
I cannot find a record for the birth of Julia. Also, where was the family in subsequent censuses? What happened to them?
As always, any help would be much appreciated.
FS -
Message 2
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
1891 census for ref , the original does say 8 for Julia
Name: Julia E Pearce
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Peter Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 35
Folio: 132
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Braithwaite 63
Emma Braithwaite 61
Lydia M Braithwaite 28
Minnie J Braithwaite 27
Frederick A Braithwaite 21
William A Braithwaite 17
Minnie F Pearce 9
Julia E Pearce 18
Lillie Loved 19
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 35; Folio 132; Page 7; GSU roll: 6095145. -
Message 3
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
1891 census (for reference). I think Julia's age is 8 on the original. The 9 against Minnie's age has a long downstroke on to the next line making it look like 18 rather than 8.
BRAITHWAITE, Thomas Head Married M 63 1828 Retired Builder Hammersmith
Middlesex
BRAITHWAITE, Emma Wife Married F 61 1830 HammersmithMiddlesex
BRAITHWAITE, Lydia M Daughter Single F 28 1863 HammersmithMiddlesex
BRAITHWAITE, Minnie J Daughter Single F 27 1864 HammersmithMiddlesex
BRAITHWAITE, Frederick A Son Married M 21 1870 Auctioners Clerk HammersmithMiddlesex
BRAITHWAITE, William A Son Single M 17 1874 Insurance Clerk HammersmithMiddlesex
PEARCE, Minnie F Granddaughter F 9 1882 Scholar HammersmithMiddlesex
PEARCE, Julia E Granddaughter F 8 1883 Scholar HammersmithMiddlesex
LOVELL, Littie Servant Single F 19 1872 General Servant Domestic Ash PriorsSomersetshire
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RG number:RG12 Piece:35 Folio:132 Page:7
Registration District:Fulham Sub District:St Peter Hammersmith Enumeration District:5 Ecclesiastical Parish:St Peters
Civil Parish:Hammersmith Municipal Borough: Address:316, King Street, Hammersmith, London County:London -
Message 4
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
1901
Name: Minnie F Pearce
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William G W Pearce
Mother's Name: Louisa W Pearce
Gender: Female
Where born: Hammersmith, London, England
Civil parish: Ealing
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Ealing
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 1192
Folio: 96
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
William G W Pearce 47
Louisa W Pearce 40
Minnie F Pearce 19
Emma L Pearce 10
Doris M Pearce 9
Marjorie W Pearce 6
Amy Hale 15
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1192; Folio: 96; Page: 14. -
Message 5
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Louisa's death:
Name: PEARCE, Louisa Westwood
Registration District: Help Brentford
County: Middlesex
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 42
Volume No: 3A
Page No: 65 -
Message 6
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Here is William with his second wife (also Louisa) in 1911:
PEARCE, William George Weshey Head Married M 57 1854 Private Means Mylor Cornwall
PEARCE, Louisa Emma Wife Married7 years F 51 1860 Lincoln Lincoln
PEARCE, Marjorie Westwood Daughter Single F 16 1895 Student Middlesex Ealing
WALKER, Emiline Servant Single F 21 1890 General Servant Domestic Somerset West Pennard
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RG number:RG14 Piece:14547 Reference:RG14PN14547 RG78PN881 RD313 SD2 ED14 SN55
Registration District:Wells Sub District:Glastonbury Enumeration District:14 Parish:West Pennard
Address:Pennard House West Pennard Glastonbury County:Somersetshire -
Message 7
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Here's the second marriage:
Name: PEARCE, William George W
Registration District: Knaresborough
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume No: 9A
Page No: Help 235
Probable bride: Louisa Emma Chard
William certainly got around. Born in Cornwall, lived in London, married in Yorkshire, lived in Somerset!! -
Message 8
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Name: Minnie Florence Pearce
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Alfred Herbert Naish
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Aug 1903
Parish: St John, Northfields
County: London
Borough: Ealing
Father Name: George Pearce builder
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Naish
address for Minnie is 4 Broughton Rd the same address as on the 1901 census ..... witnesses are George Withey Pearce ( I think ) and Elliot Thornton Glenny -
Message 9
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
wonder if this is her ?
Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Pearce Julia Emma Birmingham 6d 156 -
Message 10
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
William's death:
Name: PEARCE, William G W
Registration District: Knaresborough
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1941
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 87
Volume No: 9A
Page No: 289 -
Message 11
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Name: Doris May Pearce
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1904
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1904
Father's Name: William George Withey Pearce
Mother's Name: Louisa Westwood Pearce
Parish or Poor Law Union: Northfields St John
Borough: Ealing
Name: Marjorie Westwood Pearce
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1904
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1904
Father's Name: William George Withey Pearce
Mother's Name: Louisa Westwood Pearce
Parish or Poor Law Union: Northfields St John
Borough: Ealing
Name: Emma Lula Pearce
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1904
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1904
Mother's Name: Louisa Westwood Pearce
Parish or Poor Law Union: Northfields St John
Borough: Ealing -
Message 12
Posted by Windsurfing_Widow (U14179138) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Triplets ???
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Message 13
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
no - all born earlier but a mass baptism.
cant find the other childrens baptisms though -
Message 14
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
funny really because the three younger chidlren are all baptised together after their mother lousa's death and about the time their father married for the second time to another louisa.
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Message 15
Posted by vron (U7555028) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Name: Louisa Emma Chard
Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 44
Marriage or Bann Date: 5 Apr 1904
Parish: Harrogate, St Peter
Father's Name: William Chard
Spouse's Name: William George Withey Pearce
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Pearce
bride = spinster. groom = widower and builder . he gives his address as 1 broughton rd, ealing
witnesses = william chard, edith annie chard and lula emma pierce -
Message 16
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
1891 census
Name: Louisa E Chard
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Chard
Mother's Name: Louisa B Chard
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3703
Folio: 123
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Chard 56
Louisa B Chard 57
Louisa E Chard 31
George H Chard 23
Albert H Chard 18
Ernest A Chard 17
Edith A Chard 14
Sarah E Lakin 18
Mary J Pascoe 17
(Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3703; Folio 123; Page 7; GSU roll: 6098813. -
Message 17
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Trying to piece all this information together!
I am only interested in tracing the children of Louisa Westwood Pearce(nee Braithwaite) who was married 1880 and died 1902.
To summarise:
Minnie F Pearce on 1891 and 1901 - married 1903
Julia E Pearce on 1891 age 8 - no birth record or anything apart from 1891 census
Doris May Pearce b 1892 on 1901
Marjorie Westwood Pearce b1894 on 1901 and 1911
Emma Lulu Pearce b? on 1901
These three on baptism record, source not known
I am working through BMD, but only have access to freebmd site.
Thanks for your assistance -
FS -
Message 18
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
The 3 baptisms are from the London Metropolitan Archives on Ancestry............ unfortunately there's no birth date on the originals for these girls .......... ( some records do have birthdates on , I suppose it depended on the officials of the churches )
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Message 19
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Would someone kindly look up the 1891 and 1901 census for:
Louisa Westwood Pearce (b 1860) and husband, William George W Pearce
This may just help with the whereabouts of the children.
Thanks.
FS -
Message 20
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
We've been confused by TWO mistranscriptions of the same person
1891 has Julia E Pearce b 1882
1901 Has Emma L Pearce b 1891
I think they are one and the same
Firstly from BMD
Name: Emma Lulu Pearce
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 190
I think 1891, the image of which does say Julia, comes from a mishearing of Lula
1901's image has Emma L clearly as aged 18, not 10 as transcribed by Ancestry -
Message 21
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Message 3 and 4 of this thread has the 1891 and 1901 census , Julia and Minnie are with grandparents on 1891
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Message 22
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
More confirmation of the age - she was living at 11 St Pauls' Avenue and Cecil at no 23. He is a secretary to a limited company
Name: Emma Lulu Pearce
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Cecil Llewelyn Pugh
Spouse Age: 37
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Jan 1916
Parish: St Andrew, Willesden
County: London
Borough: Brent
Father Name: George Withey Pearce (gentleman)
Spouse Father Name: Clifford Henry Pugh (deceased) -
Message 23
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Sorry - am I missing it - can't see Louisa and William for 1891?
This lot really are messing with my eyes - have opticians appt on Wednesday!
FS -
Message 24
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
1891
Name: George W Pearce
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa W Pearce
Gender: Male
Where born: Milor, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Ealing
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
Town: Ealing
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1030
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Pearce 37 - builder
Louisa W Pearce 30
Charlotte Simpson 71 - boarder living on own means
Address looks like 1 Broghton st -
Message 25
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
1891 1 Broughton Rd a builder , Charlotte is a boarder
Name: George W Pearce
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa W Pearce
Gender: Male
Where born: Milor, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Ealing
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
Town: Ealing
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1030
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
George W Pearce 37
Louisa W Pearce 30
Charlotte Simpson 71
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1030; Folio 12; Page 18; GSU roll: 6096140.
Source Information: -
Message 26
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Emma Lulu's death
Name: Emma Lulu Pugh
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1882
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1972
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1299 -
Message 27
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
In case you wanted 1911
NAISH, Alfred Herbert Head Married M 34 1877 Civil Engineer Bristol Gloucester
NAISH, Minnie Florence Wife Married
8 years F 29 1882 London Hammersmith
NAISH, Margaret Daughter F 3 1908 Oxon Launton
LAMBOURNE, Eva Servant Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic Bucks Mursley
Amesham Road Beaconsfield -
Message 28
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Minnie's death
Name: Minnie F Naish
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1955
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Amersham
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 238 -
Message 29
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1921
Name: Marjorie Westwood Pearce
Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 25
Burough: Ealing
County: Middlesex
Event Type: marriage
Event Date: 17 Jun 1920
Father: George W Pearce - gentleman
Spouse: Frank Courtney Harwood - export manager
Spouse Age: 23
Spouse father: William D Harwood - master cordwainer
I think a W A Braithwaite is one of the witnesses -
Message 30
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
Name: Marjorie Westwood Harwood
Probate Date: 2 Apr 1932
Death Date: 2 Jan 1932
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol
The sad thing is there is a birth in Bristol of a Majorie, mmn Pearce, in the first quarter of 1932 -
Message 31
Posted by Familysearch (U2959402) on Saturday, 3rd September 2011
thank you so much to all of you for helping me out with this family. I think we are more or less there with them
I shall have to close down - I am almost nodding off here!
Thanks again
FS
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