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  Posted by DocYolanda (U1859442) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Cany anyone help me try and find the following
  family on the 1851 census for the Tower Hamlets
  area please?
  
  James Matthews about 24
  Sarah Matthews about 25
  William Matthews about 8
  Sarah Matthews about 3
  James Matthews about 1
  
  Hoping someone can find them, this is one
  of my brick walls!
  
  

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi, Do you have this family's details from the 1861 census, if not do you want them? I am currently searching the 1851 census.
  Regards
  Spike

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  Posted by DocYolanda (U1859442) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hello Spike
  
  Yes please if that's ok, as I don't have any
  other details of this family.
  
  Thanks
  
  PS
  
  This is the first time I have used the new board,
  do we not receive e mail notification that we have been sent a message as we used to?

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi Doc, On the 1851 Census is the following Matthews family living at 117, East field Street, Limehouse,London.
  
  James, head born abt. 1822 in Limehouse.
  
  Sarah, wife born abt. 1826 in Limehouse.
  
  James, son born abt. 1845 in Limehouse.
  
  Elizabeth, daughter born abt 1845 in Limehouse.
  
  Mary, daughter born abt. 1849 in Limehouse.
  
  ???, son born abt. 1851 in Limehouse.
  
  Sorce info: HO107/1554 page 48.
  
  It could be that the last child was born so close to the night of the census that he had not yet been named or baptised.
  
  I will need to double check the Matthew family on the 1861 census.
  
  Trust the above is of help.
  Regards
  Spike

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  Posted by DocYolanda (U1859442) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hello Spike
  
  One of my brick walls is a son James born in Hammersmith (is Limehouse near Hammersmith?)
  
  I am just trying to locate any Jameses born between 1845 and 1854 in Hammersmith, preferably
  with a father called James. A tall order I know
  that's why it's one of my brick walls.
  
  If it is not too much to ask, would you be able to look at the 1861 for me, and possibly the
  1851/1861 for the Chiswick/Brentford area.
  Looking for a son James Matthews aged 0-6 on the 1851 and 7-16 on the 1861.
  
  Thanking you for your help so far, hoping you can help. I know whoever comes up with
  the right family will be forever in my debt.
  
  
  
  
  and 16

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi Doc,
  Hammersmith is very west London where as Lime House is on the northern edge of the Isle of Dogs in East London.
  On the 1861 census is the following Matthews family living at 7, Cromwells Buildings, Providence PLace, Hammersmith.
  
  William, head born abt. 1805 in CHISWICK.
  Occupation Labourer.
  
  Caroline, wife born abt. 1809 in Chiswick.
  
  Matthew, son born abt. 1838 in Chiswick.
  
  Caroline, daughter born abt. 1840 in Chiswick.
  
  James, son born abt. 1849 in HAMMERSMITH.
  
  Source info: RG9/25 Page 29.
  
  The other Matthews family that may fit the bill on the 1861 census is the following living at 17, Elliots Court, St. Sepulchre, Farringdon Without, London.
  
  James, head born abt. 1811 in London City.
  
  Susanna, wife born abt. 1806 in London City.
  
  James, son born abt. 1847 in London City.
  
  Thomas, son born abt. 1850 in London City.
  
  Source info. RG9/216 Page 33.
  
  Trust this is of help.
  
  Regards
  Spike
  
  
  

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  Posted by DocYolanda (U1859442) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hello Spike
  
  Going on your information I think I can rule out the Limehouse family.
  
  The other family from Cromwells Buildings I already have, on that one it is just the fact
  that the father's name is William and not
  a James as stated on my James Matthew's marriage certificate. That is the only information I have
  to go on from the certificate.
  
  The last family is looking good, but would you know if Hammersmith was classed as London City perhaps?
  
  Thanks once again
  
  

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi, Do you have a place of birth for James senior or junior??
  Regards
  Spike

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  Posted by DocYolanda (U1859442) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi Spike again
  
  The only information I have on James junior is
  that on his marriage certificate it says his
  father's name was James a labourer. On the 1881
  census it gives James junior's birthplace as Hammersmith Middlesex a labourer.
  
  The Cromwell Buildings family looks favourable the only thing is that the father's name on that
  is a William. I have no other way of verifying this information.
  
  Thanks
  

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi again,
  I can not find a record of either a birth or a marriage of a James Matthews (born about 1850ish) in Hammersmith whilst there are plenty out side of Hammersmith mainly in the east end. Where do it show James Matthews jnr getting married and what was his brides name?
  There is a James jnr and his family on the 1881 census that does fit the bill but I suspect that you have seen that one.
  As to his father's name being James it may have been a middle name that he prefered to use and his first name may have been William?
  This one is a challenge!!
  Regards
  Spike

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  Posted by DocYolanda (U1859442) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hello Saint Spike
  
  In the past I have received two birth certificates.
  
  1) A James Matthews born 1849 St Pancras
  with a father called James (Solicitors Clerk - I don't thinks that is the right one).
  
  2) A James Matthews born 1849 Hammersmith
  with a father called William (Labourer - that is
  my like it). This one, I think, is the James from Cromwell Buildings that you told me about.
  
  James was married in 1868 to Emily Kinton at
  St Peters, Parish of Hammersmith. If the family
  you have found on the 1881 are living at Gt George St Middlesex, that is the same one that I have.
  
  I think you are right Spike in saying that James jnr's father may have been James and just wanted to be called William.
  
  I'll leave you with that last piece of information, but if you feel you have exhausted all avenues please feel free to call it a day.
  On the other hand if ever you find anymore that would confirm who my James Matthews is, please let me know.
  
  Thanks again
  

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  Posted by Stepney Boy (U1760040) on Monday, 15th August 2005

  Hi, last effort. I did a search on James Matthews DOB 1847 +/- 5 years born Hammersmith on 1837 online and it came back with the London City family (earlier message) and no one else!If you read London City as Greater London as opposed to City of London then perhaps?
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  Spike

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