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Will i ever find my G Grandmother Kate Duncan?

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Tuesday, 18th October 2005

  Hi,
  I'm not sure if anyone will be able to unravel the mystery of my gr grandmother - Kate Duncan. I cannot find a birth/death certificate and she only appears on one census (1901).
  I believe she was born c1877 in Sunderland. In 1901 she was "visiting" her soon to be in-laws and later that year married Thomas Dagg. On her marriage certificate, it states she was aged 23 and her father was William Duncan, engine man. William wasn't a witness to the wedding.
  I also know she died around 1966-7 because I remember it but can't find her death cert.
  As they married shortly after the 1901 census, I checked the address she gave and her family do not live there... but one of the witnesses lived nearby. Now this is as far I have got for years!!! I doubt if Kate gave her correct age on her wedding certificate as her youngest son was born when she would have been 50, she kept this secret all her life. Through genesreunited I found one of her grandsons widows who told me that when they cleared her house they found a baptism certificate of William Duncan, he was born in Ireland around 1843. I thought this was the breakthrough... but no I found William on all the censuses and he did have a daughter in 1877 but not called Kate, I have traced her marriage and 1901 census appearance so it cant be the same woman.
  I believe Kate ran away from home when she found she was pregnant (true, but the baby didn't survive) and she borrowed an identity for the 1901 census and her marriage and kept it all her life. Will this remain a mystery forever...

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  Posted by busybeaver (U1788915) on Wednesday, 19th October 2005

  
  Found this entry on the free bmd. Isnt Kate short for Catherine. If you apply for it at the local registrar and add extra info with the application ie fathers name. They will refund the fee to you if it doesnt match. Its worth a try.
  JunQ 1879 Duncan Catherine Sunderland 10a 560

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  Posted by busybeaver (U1788915) on Wednesday, 19th October 2005

  perhaps this is why you couldnt find her on the 1881 census.
  
  John HENDERSON Head M Male 50 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Ropemaker
  Frances HENDERSON Wife M Female 49 Sunderland, Durham, England
  Thomas HENDERSON Son U Male 19 Wallsend, Northumberland, England Ropemaker
  Dorothy HENDERSON Daur U Female 16 Wallsend, Northumberland, England
  Catherine DUNCAN Baby Charge U Female 2
  
  Wallsend, Northumberland, England
  Ropery Houses
  
  Census Place Wallsend, Northumberland, England
  Family History Library Film 1342225
  Public Records Office Reference RG11
  Piece / Folio 5072 / 53
  Page Number 55
  

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Wednesday, 19th October 2005

  A big thank you Busy beaver!
  I think this may be the right one!
  Reason being my mother was saddled with some middle names that had some importance to her mother/grandmother but we have been trying to unravel the significance.
  Middle names are Robinson & Henderson. I found the Robinson but Henderson was beyond me.
  I shall apply for her birth certificate..
  Thanks again
  Jenny

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  Posted by dailoshan (U2270145) on Thursday, 20th October 2005

  If you have the parish where she was married, you could look for the burial of the child in the church records.
  Have tried the site:
  www.ukbmd.org.uk (not the same site as FreeBMD!)?
  Enter the county and you will be able to access a lot of local information, probably through the local societies. It may help you find some of the other links.
  Good Luck
  

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Thursday, 20th October 2005

  Hi,
  Thanks, I have details of all Kate's children, grandchildren and gr grandchildren and now gr gr granchildren! it is only Kate I am missing.
  Kate Dagg (nee Duncan) died 1966-1967 in the Pallion area of Sunderland in the parish of St Lukes. I have sent off for her birth certificate as given earlier, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed this is the right one. I found the same Catherine again in 1891 and it apears there her father was called William and she had a sister Margaret which is correct - I had already found the family earlier but couldn't be sure it was the right one until the connection with the Henderson family was made in 1881.
  Jenny

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