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  Posted by rokeby (U1803039) on Friday, 14th October 2005

  Hi, can anyone tell me how to find a baptism record. My gr.gr.grandfather was Henry Charles Robinson, and he was born around 1807 or 1808. On the census of 1851, he gives his place of birth as Newport, Isle of Wight. I have tried the Newport Records Office, and they can find no baptism record there. He went on to train at Guys and St. Thomas' Hospitals as a surgeon and then in Plymouth as an apothecary. He also worked in a Plymouth hospital until he returned to London to work at St. Pancras Infirmary in 1829. He married Matilda Eliza Hatful Patey on 24.3.1828 at Maker Church, Cornwall. She came from Stonehouse, Plymouth. The apothecary to whom he was apprenticed was a William Patey Baldy of Plymouth. I assume that he was related to Matilda, which is how Henry probably met her. Is there somewhere that has all the country's baptism records? I have been unable to find Matilda's either. Is there anyone out there who is researching Robinsons who might have come across my gr.gr.grandfather? Help please. Rokeby.

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) on Friday, 14th October 2005

  Hi Rokeby,
  Do you know when your gr. gr. grandfather died?
  I ask this as there is a obituary for a Henry Robinson L.R.C.P.,L.R.C.S Edin in both the British Medical Journal and The Lancet in 1904. This would mean he lived to 97-98? is it possible this is the same one?
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  Posted by dmatt74 (U1690430) on Saturday, 15th October 2005

  The baptism records were kept by the church locally and most are in the relevant county and local record offices, eg Devon Record Office, Plymouth. The Family Search website has a national list but they need to be checked against the originals.
  
  Not everyone registered baptisms as they cost a comparatively large amount of money at the time.

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  Posted by BashfulMaudie (U2237879) on Monday, 17th October 2005

  Hi
  Have you tried looking for his baptism on
  www.familysearch.org
  This is the Mormon site of baptism & marriages
  and it is free

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  Posted by itch2stitch (U2253082) on Monday, 17th October 2005

  You could go straight to the IGI page, and look under the relevant parish - might find others that you didn't know about too!

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  Posted by Andy Alston (U1650527) on Tuesday, 18th October 2005

  There are many reasons why the baptism records can be hard to find.
  
  The indexes on sites such as FamilySearch are prepared by volunteers, usually in connection with their own research, and they do quite a good job with the microfilm copies they work from. However many records are now illegible (the ones I want most always are), and not everywhere is transcribed. Few Roman Catholic records have made it to the database, for example. Even when work is done, there are anomalies. At two churches where I have ancestors only the baptism records of females have been transcribed. No-one can tell me why.
  
  Although someone may have been born in one place, they may be baptised in a different one - at the "family" church. The period between the birth and baptism might be quite long. Arranging the trip may have been difficult.
  My niece's second child was born in Australia and baptised in Lancashire three months later. Imagine trying to sort that one out from the records!
  
  It may be worth searching places with a proponderance of baptisms with the right surname. You might hit lucky.

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  Posted by rokeby (U1803039) on Thursday, 20th October 2005

  Hi Jenny, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, this Henry Charles Robinson you mention is not the right one. I know my ancestor died in Stepney in Mile End Old Town in 1872 as I have his death certificate. He is buried in Abney Park Cemetery. The problem is that he says on the 1851 census that he was born in Newport, Isle of Wight, but the researcher in the Isle of Wight cannot find a baptism record for him. So unless I get over there myself, to take the time and effort needed to go through all the microfiche films, I probably won't be able to find him. He was living in London before 1821, so I believe the family came from London. He had all but one of his children baptized at Old Church, St. Pancras, so maybe that was the area he had come from previously. I'll have to try the LMA when next I go up to London. Thanks for trying anyway. Rokeby.

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  Posted by rokeby (U1803039) on Thursday, 20th October 2005

  Hi Andy, thanks for your reply. I shall have to keep on looking. I do know that not every baptism was registered, and that many Roman Catholic ones weren't. I have looked on the IGI and Freepages Genealogy, but without success, although all his children's baptisms were there. Its difficult when you have a distance to cover, as I have connections with London, Isle of Wight, Devon and possibly Yorkshire on that side of the family. Next step is to look in the LMA to see if I can find anything there. Rokeby.

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  Posted by dailoshan (U2270145) on Thursday, 20th October 2005

  I think this is factually incorrect. The Church of England does NOT charge for baptism!
  If it did then the large number of pauper baptisms would not have happened.

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  Posted by dailoshan (U2270145) on Thursday, 20th October 2005

  I will look tomorrow at the Bishop's transcripts at SOG and see if it is there. He may not be there if he was RC, non-conformist, Quaker or Jewish. I will try to give feed back late tomorrow. I think this is factually incorrect. The Church of England does NOT charge for baptism!
  If it did then the large number of pauper baptisms would not have happened.Μύ

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  Posted by dailoshan (U2270145) on Saturday, 22nd October 2005

  I will look tomorrow at the Bishop's transcripts at SOG and see if it is there. He may not be there if he was RC, non-conformist, Quaker or Jewish. I will try to give feed back late tomorrow. I think this is factually incorrect. The Church of England does NOT charge for baptism!
  If it did then the large number of pauper baptisms would not have happened.Μύ Μύ
  I looked all through the Bishops' transcript for the parish for the period 1900 - 1910 without finding your relative. I noticed there is a transcription of the RC baptisms and all a listing of a non comformist chapel within that parish. Do you know your relatives denomination?

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