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Who were Mary Ann's parents?

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  Posted by searching sam (U971201) on Saturday, 17th September 2005

  Hello, I'm new to this website.
  My Great Grandmother was Mary Ann Lush who was born in Portsea about 1886 (I think!). My problem is that, although I have her marriage cert. and her death cert, I am unable to find her birth cert. under that name.(I have searched six years of records on 1837.com and have also searched at the local record office) I have a reference to her baptism in Dec 1867.
  I did think of illegitimacy, but her parents were married in 1864 and had no other children.
  I suppose she might have been adopted. Does anyone know if it is possible to find adoption records?

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  Posted by anisel (U1752839) on Saturday, 17th September 2005

  Why do you say the parents had no other children? This looks like them in 1871, at 65 & 67 Abercrombie Street, Portsmouth. Charles is a master cooper and beer retailer, employing 3 men and a boy.
  
  Charles Lush abt 1835 Farlington, Hampshire, England Head Portsea Hampshire
  Charles E Lush abt 1871 Landport, Hampshire, England Son Portsea Hampshire
  Mary Ann Lush abt 1845 Portsea, Hampshire, England Wife Portsea Hampshire
  Mary Ann Lush abt 1865 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire
  Alice Show abt 1858 Landport, Hampshire, England Cousin-in-law Portsea Hampshire
  
  Source information: RG10/1127
  Registration district: Portsea Island
  Sub-registration district: Kingston
  ED, institution, or vessel: 5
  Folio: 88
  Page: 8 (
  Household schedule number: 35
  GSU Number: 827774
  
  There are no adoption records at that date - adoption was informal until regulated in the 1920s.

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  Posted by dmatt74 (U1690430) on Saturday, 17th September 2005

  I would suggest the first port of call would be for the baptism entry. Portsmouth (including Portsea) has a number of parishes and the Portsmouth Record Office may have the information. There is a possibility that she could have been born abroad if her father was in the Royal Navy, Royal Marines (including the Royal Marine Artillery) all of which have had bases around Portsmouth.
  
  Adoption records are likely to have been recorded in the Poor Records and they may be in the Portmouth Record Office or the main Hampshire Record Office in Winchester.
  
  Have you looked on the various censuses for 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901?, these are on The National Archives, Kew, website.
  
  I would also suggest looking in Gosport (also known as Alverstoke) just across from Portsmouth and also on the Isle of Wight.

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  Posted by anisel (U1752839) on Saturday, 17th September 2005

  Her parents seem to have had quite a few other children. This is them in 1881. Charles is a master cooper employing 2 men and 2 boys, and young Mary Ann is a dressmaker.
  
  Horatio Jones abt 1817 Portsea, Hampshire, England Lodger Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Charles Lush abt 1845 Drayton, Hampshire, England Head Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Charles Lush abt 1871 Landport, Hampshire, England Son Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Frances Lush abt 1876 Portsea, Hampshire, England Daughter Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Harry Lush abt 1880 Portsea, Hampshire, England Son Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Jesse Lush abt 1874 Portsea, Hampshire, England Son Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Mary A. Lush abt 1845 Portsea, Hampshire, England Wife Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Mary A. Lush abt 1865 Portsea, Hampshire, England Daughter Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  William J. Tout abt 1862 Southsea, Hampshire, England Lodger Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  Thomas Trewsell abt 1860 London Bermondsey, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Daniel Street No 1, Portsea, Hampshire, England
  
  Source information: RG11/1147
  Registration district: Portsea Island
  Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
  ED, institution, or vessel: 9
  Folio: 61
  Page: 26

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  Posted by searching sam (U971201) on Saturday, 17th September 2005

  Thanks very much. I did mean that they had no other children at the time of Mary Ann's birth

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  Posted by searching sam (U971201) on Saturday, 17th September 2005

  Thankyou to everyone.
  I have the census results and am most grateful for the info about adoption.
  The baptism of Mary Ann took place at St. John's, Portsea in Dec 1867 at the same time and place as several of Charles' sister's children - must have been quite a party!
  I will go and see what I can find out at Portsmouth record office or Winchester.

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