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Pre 1837 tracing

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Thursday, 15th September 2005

  I have gone back as far as I can, I think. Found that the person I thought was my G G G grandfather was not by obtaining my G G grandfathers Birth certificate (b 1843). Have traced his parents via the 1841 census as its rather an uncommon name. How can I go back further? I see that some of our friends over the pond manage to get info from well before the 19th century. How do they do that? Any info would be gratefully received.
  
  Many thanks in advance
  
  Jo

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  Posted by jc (U1902680) ** on Thursday, 15th September 2005

  Try searching the LDS site for the IGI data, you may come up with a birth or marriage. What is the name you looking for and the village/town?

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Thursday, 15th September 2005

  My G G G grandfather was Marshall Dales b. 1818 and his wife my G G G Grandmother Elizabeth b. 1815 - Probably Lincolnshire, Well that was where John Dales was born. Louth, Lincs.
  
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  Jo

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  Posted by Linda1111 (U1103093) ** on Thursday, 15th September 2005

  It is harder once you get back to 1837 but it can be done! Parish records are the main route to earlier generations and don't forget parish chest records which can contain a wealth of information on poor law proceedings, illegitimacy (can't write the proper word!)and so on. These records are usually available at County Record/Archive Offices but many have been filmed by the LDS and are available to borrow at your local centre.
  
  Then there are wills which can be a wealth of information.
  
  It helps if your ancestors stayed in the same locality but they can be traced and cross checked even if they did move around. There are rate books, trade directories, manorial records and so on.
  
  Try searching A2A on TNA site too as there are many records indexed on there that may be of use to you.
  
  To be honest pre-1837 involves lots of time at archives but it's worth it in the end.

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  Posted by carolinelise (U968673) on Thursday, 15th September 2005

  Jo,
  There are a series of online parish clerks more than willing to search their archives for your needs. Look under family history services. I've been helped greatly by the Dorset opc. I would highly recommend them.
  Caroline

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  Posted by dmatt74 (U1690430) on Thursday, 15th September 2005

  Further to what other people have said, there are still parts of the country whose parish records are not in the record/archive offices and consequently not on Family Search. Non-conformist (ie not Church of England)records are held at The National Archives/Family Records Centre or at libraries like Dr Williams.
  
  I would suggest contacting Lincolnshire Record Office and they can tell what records they have and a number of record offices have over time created name indexes to their records. The Victoria County History is also good and you may find an ancestor mentioned. Finally The National Archives, Kew, have a lot of records and your ancestor may be recorded if for example he was in the Army, Navy, a landowner, etc. In theory you could get back through land records to 1086 but in practice the 17th century is a good result.
  
  I think the pre-1837 is far more interesting than post-1837 as you need to work out possible parishes and events as you go through the records and you are actually looking at the book that the parish clerk or vicar used.

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  Posted by Jowin1 (U1940449) on Friday, 16th September 2005

  Thank you all for your posts. I had the idea that I will have to go back to Lincolnshire to check the records. I have to go back anyway to trace my other G G Grandfather in Stallingborough anyway. So can kill two birds with one stone.Thanks again all of you. I will try all the sources you recommend.
  
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