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• Message 1.Ìý

  Posted by Thomas (U15050473) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  I thought to start this thread to enable people with ideas and capacity to create a new message boards for this history community or to suggest some other existing message boards to join.
  
  As for I can´t handle the creation and moderation of an new message board, I rather suggest to collect some links on here to look on these other message boards and decide whether to join or not.
  
  I´ll start with the links set up in Paul´s message from yesterday.
  
  
  
  
  
  Maybe others could add further suggestions.
  
  

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• Message 2

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  Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  I'm copying in a message I've posted on the other thread.
  
  Hi Thomas, I think it would be really good if someone could do that, maybe a google or yahoo group. If I were competent I'd offer but...........
  The only snag might be circulating the information if it wasn't set up before the closure date since we can't exchange personal info like email addresses here.
  Can I suggest that, after closure, two places we could contact each other under our present nom de plumes are here www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
  and
  www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
  These are not restricted to a particular topic nor to Archers discussions, you might have to live through pre mod again though. At least they would be a point of contact and if another group was set up, the details could be posted there.

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  Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  Blast, links didn't work so here they are again
  
  and
  
  
  That's better!

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• Message 4

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  Posted by Thomas (U15050473) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  Hi ferval,
  
  I´ve already read your post on the other thread. I think if there is some interest of posters on here to meet elsewhere after the Â鶹ԼÅÄ MBs has been shutdown, it should be possible to collect and decide where to go within the next 13 days.
  
  I know one person from the former Â鶹ԼÅÄ Radio 3 MBs who started a new message boards and it´s still running. I might try to contact her or set up the link for someone else capable in handling the set up of a message board to get some advice to this. I´d provide the link to this external message boards on request.

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• Message 5

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  Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  Hi Thomas, I wasn't suggesting those places as our new home, although we could have a 'bar' on one, but as a point of contact where any details of a new site etc might be put. Since it would be posted under our current on line names it would be easy for anyone to find.

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• Message 6

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  Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  This is a good idea Thomas!
  
  Another suggestion is here
  
  It is owned and run by a Belgian, is very well moderated so the loonies are kept at bay, it is English language with members are from all over Europe and world. It also has good history, culture, genetics, linguistics and current affairs sections with many knowledgeable members contributing. Although, it is probably not for the more Anglocentric and open mind is often needed.
  
  I'd be in favour of a new group also, but haven't the know-how, time or a reliable enough internet connection (our power supply can be tricky in bad weather, which happens a lot through winter) to be able to set one up. I've just tried Josef's old board at googlegroups, which had a lot of members from here, but it said that it had been disabled due to suspicious activity. But I don't think anyone has used it for discussions in a long time anyway.
  
  
  
  

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• Message 7

  , in reply to message 5.

  Posted by Thomas (U15050473) on Friday, 9th December 2011

  Hi ferval,
  
  I understood your suggestion and it might as well be helpful for the time after the 22nd December. For the time being it seems to be easier to most people on here to use these boards to avoid pre-moderation on the Archers MBs.
  
  I´ve had a look on the h2g2 MBs, now run private. They were set back to old outlook of the Â鶹ԼÅÄ before the Â鶹ԼÅÄ created a new one, more bright colours used then. The old setting is not good for the eyes because you´ve a black background and on some pages, but not for the spaces (sheets) when writing in conversations to a thread. It´s the place where Cass has edited his essays and other stuff. The link is to find in the announcement of the History Host´s thread, in case you like to have a look to the h2g2 MB.
  
  I for myself have registered on an Irish site but I don´t think it would suit for the community on here, because although there is an MB for History, the threads there are besides some general non-Irish topics, more about Irish history or Anglo-Irish relations. I´ve just sent in a few posts there since registering and I don´t know whether I´ll use that site very often. Rather occasionally I suppose.
  
  The people on the Family Trees MB have already found their new place to move.
  
  Let´s see what turns up and who´s going to follow to the new place for the History MBs. I´ve no idea, quite frankly.

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• Message 8

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  Posted by Herewordless (U14549396) on Saturday, 10th December 2011

  There's
  
  (Generic history forum - a few here have joined there also so far)
  
  (Â鶹ԼÅÄ's magazine forum, a bit slow though)
  
  (Roman specialists)

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• Message 9

  , in reply to message 6.

  Posted by Mutatis_Mutandis (U8620894) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  This is a good idea Thomas!
  
  Another suggestion is here
  
  It is owned and run by a Belgian, is very well moderated so the loonies are kept at bay, it is English language with members are from all over Europe and world. It also has good history, culture, genetics, linguistics and current affairs sections with many knowledgeable members contributing. Although, it is probably not for the more Anglocentric and open mind is often needed.
  
  I'd be in favour of a new group also, but haven't the know-how, time or a reliable enough internet connection (our power supply can be tricky in bad weather, which happens a lot through winter) to be able to set one up. I've just tried Josef's old board at googlegroups, which had a lot of members from here, but it said that it had been disabled due to suspicious activity. But I don't think anyone has used it for discussions in a long time anyway.
  
  
  
  Ìý Having had a look at Eupedia, I don't really like it. While the leel of debate is at least reasonably polite, it seems full of people with rather wacky far-right ideas... and far too little knowledge. Ranging from a thread that repeats Nazi views on "degenerate art" without any sense of historical context (or knowledge of art), to fairly silly denunciations of Islamic cultural contributions.
  
  I think there are several ways to create a forum with a limited effort and no or limited cost. For example, I have been visiting a forum that is hosted on Delphi forums for several years: The "free" version has some annoying limitations, but it would still serve a fairly small group like us.
  
  Moderation, however, can be very necessary and time-consuming.
  

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• Message 10

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  Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  Digger, what you mean saying 'that board is well moderated' ?

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• Message 11

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  Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  Well, I agree MM. There are some people with wacky far right (and left for that matter) and/or silly unknowledgeable ideas there, but I haven't yet found a large MB without those sort in the mix. And quite often they are to be found here also.
  
  But, I think, it depends on what one is looking for. Diversity in interest, thought, ideas, knowledge and expression or merely a community that fits one's comfort zone and continually reafirms one's own view. Personally, I'd choose the former every time, the later becomes too boring after a while and will more often than not stagnate.
  
  
  
  
  
  

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• Message 12

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  Posted by Herewordless (U14549396) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  I think someone on the wonderfully friendly and diverse forum I frequent (the only one now this is closing)- which once stayed off an outbreak 'invasion' of extreme right morons- mentioned Eupedia as quite right-wing.

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• Message 13

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  Posted by Seamus an Chaca (U14844281) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  Choosing sites that aren't full of clueless idiots or extremists is tricky. And one that is friendly.
  
  I was a member of Historum, it has 'some' European (less UK/Ireland) History but it seems to be more US-centric, the layout is very dark in colour and there's too many boards which aren't regularly used.
  
  History sites I found to be knowledgeable, friendly and engaging (mentally and inter-action), are, in my view,
  
  ? (Viking History)
  
  (General and English History)
  
  (World History)
  
  
  
  

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• Message 14

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  Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  I was a member of Historum, it has 'some' European (less UK/Ireland) History but it seems to be more US-centric, the layout is very dark in colour and there's too many boards which aren't regularly used.Ìý
  
  Thanks for that insight, I've looked into Historum a few times over the last year with a view to possibly joining and could never quite make up my mind. But that is the general impression I've had also, and the reason I haven't taken the final plunge and regestering. Plus the board is a little too large, one feels quite lost somehow.
  
  Thanks also for sharing the links, I'll look into them with interest.
  

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• Message 15

  , in reply to message 11.

  Posted by Mutatis_Mutandis (U8620894) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  Well, I agree MM. There are some people with wacky far right (and left for that matter) and/or silly unknowledgeable ideas there, but I haven't yet found a large MB without those sort in the mix. And quite often they are to be found here also.
  
  But, I think, it depends on what one is looking for. Diversity in interest, thought, ideas, knowledge and expression or merely a community that fits one's comfort zone and continually reafirms one's own view. Personally, I'd choose the former every time, the later becomes too boring after a while and will more often than not stagnate.
  
  
  
  
  
  Ìý Diversity in thoughts and views is stimulating. Debating with people who have warped view of reality itself is a waste of time. And as such people usually continue to repeat their claims no matter how often they are proven wrong, it can get boring and tedious indeed.

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• Message 16

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  Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Sunday, 11th December 2011

  Debating with people who have warped view of reality itself is a waste of time. And as such people usually continue to repeat their claims no matter how often they are proven wrong, it can get boring and tedious indeedÌý
  
  As we have seen, and are seeing on this board right now

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