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    Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Friday, 18th March 2011

    A few weeks ago I concluded my "History for Our Own Times" with some reflections upon the impact of our time units on human behaviour: and in particular the impact of changing centuries and Millennia..

    By that time there were interesting similarities between the first eleven years of the twentieth century and the first eleven years of this one.

    There were already very unsettled aspects to 2011- and North African incidents brought the international community to the brink of war in 1911, only for the escape from war to lead to a brief optimism and the Bright New Dawn of the spring and early summer of 1914.





    Cass

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    Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Friday, 18th March 2011

    Since then a number of people have commented on the similarities between the popular uprings in Eastern Europe in 1989, as people decided not to allow the 'status quo' to spread into the new century/Millennium.

    In fact George Osborne, on assuming cabinet office, remarked that "his" was the Berlin Wall generation, who then saw how that Millennial momentum brought the end of Aparthied and the troubles in Northern Ireland- as well as other areas of world affairs that had seemed to be deadlocked for years.

    What seems to be happening in North Africa is a feeling that certain things are basic human entitlements in the Twenty First Century, while other things must be consigned to the dust-bin of history.

    But the end of previous centuries and the start of the next have also seen such dramatic events, as the idea of history and the idea of a shape of history using the time zones that Humanity imposes upon reality.. The opening of the twentieth century was also a time of great expectations; and an appreciation of the real challenge of forging the future. And it was a world, like our own, hovering over the thread of the abyss of uncertainty and the unknown.

    John Romer wrote of the pre-1914 period:
    "By that time of course, Darwin's theories had largely swept away traditional Western visions of human origin. The Bible's gentle universe, Adam and Eve, theology and scripture, had been replaced by the developing jargons of a young academic establishment that had taken control of archaeology, anthropology and anatomy. Modern people who wished to to know about the past read the works of scientists, not priests; they wanted facts, not myths or theories."

    Cass

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    Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Monday, 21st March 2011

    + after an eclipse lasting throughout most of XIXth century, Satan has returned to European literature..by 1900, he had been laughed out of existence. He remained 'an exploded myth' until the Great War., when people began to doubt their doubts. The WWII virtually reinstated him..it is, therefore, natural that it should be the Catholic novelist of Britain ( G. Greene ) who have put Satan back- where he can be seen and watched, Cass.

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    Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Monday, 21st March 2011

    Ounupa

    Very interesting reflection.. It seems that during the Age of Gothic Horror all kinds of intrusions of the "Supernatural" into the Natural World became fashionable- ghosts, spirits, demons, vampires etc.. And of course the way that people wrote about TRUTH was full of hyperbole and exaggeration- so there was the saying that "Truth is stranger than fiction"..

    But what about the Roman Catholic revival, the cult of the bodily ascenscion of Mary into Heaven and then the doctrine of Papal Infallibility (1870) did this not bring back preaching about "The Devil and all his works"?

    After watching "Rosemary's Baby" I wrote a song "Sold My Soul to the Devil"...and after a counter NF demonstration I wrote a song "The Devil at Loughborough Junction"

    Cass

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    Posted by OUNUPA (U2078829) on Monday, 21st March 2011

    Cass, we know of the Whitch of Endor, we know of the whitches of Salem, but between Endor and Salem lay some 2700 years and as many dark pages. After Salem, whitchcraft apparently decreased, but evil possession continued to reach its apex in the maniacal possession of a Stalin. Lives there a man so rash, as to say, or at any rate to believe, that Satanism has disappeared ?

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    Posted by CASSEROLEON (U11049737) on Monday, 21st March 2011

    Ounupa

    My song "Sold My Soul etc" was very much on the lines that people seem to think that Satan is someone that you can do business with, a misunderstood force that will look after his "faithful"..

    But surely the whole point of being evil is that evil does the thing that is least desired.. Hence the song starts from the premis that the singer did not fancy an eternity in a Heaven if it involved sitting on a cloud and playing the harp all day.. And ends after an immoral life with being sat on a cloud.......

    People think that life is all about just pushing little buttons and having whatever you want to happen happen... But really it is just the "you can have any colour you want, as long as it is black" --reality that people settle for because of the mass manipulation.

    Cass

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