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Message 1.Β
Posted by Priscilla (U14315550) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011
I have just posted a discussion point on the wrong Board! Mainly because i was also thinking at the time that there was really no need to have three Boards History. Surely one would suffice and generate more interest in a wider range of subjects and interest contributors in other things also?
If the Conflict bods don't have much to say on the suject, I'll heave over here.
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Message 2
Posted by Priscilla (U14315550) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011
And the topic seems to have been removed from there so I'll have do it again for here. If I can get all the right words in the right order... should have saved it.
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Message 3
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011
Re: Message 1 and 2.
Priscilla, old friend,
" Mainly because i was also thinking at the time that there was really no need to have three Boards History. Surely one would suffice and generate more interest in a wider range of subjects and interest contributors in other things also?"
I was thinking along the same lines. If one central history messageboard instead of four could save our "community" from extinction on the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ messageboards, while I suppose there is no such amount of supervision on one instead of four? And maintenance? And I suppose for most contributors of the four messageboards it wouldn't be an annoyance to have one board to discuss mostly inter-related questions of history?
Kind regards and with esteem,
Paul. -
Message 4
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Thursday, 27th January 2011
Hi Paul and Priscilla,
I didn't get to see your question over on the conflicts board before it was taken off Priscilla, so not sure what exactly it is that I am answering, not that that has ever stopped me from yabbering I suppose!
But I agree with your points here though, one board would suffice for history instead of the three and would possibly generate more interest from contributors if we were all thrown in together. Don't think family trees would work in the mix though. -
Message 5
Posted by somewhatsilly (U14315357) on Thursday, 27th January 2011
Count me in as well, sometimes it's not obvious which board would be the most appropriate for a new thread and there's probably ones on the War & Conflicts board that I could be interested in but don't very often look at.
Like you, id, I don't think that Family Trees sits quite as naturally and we don't want duplication in the bar area, do we? Too quiet in ours as it is, only bandick's flights of drug fuelled fancy are keeping it ticking over just now. -
Message 6
Posted by islanddawn (U7379884) on Thursday, 27th January 2011
Duplication in the bar? We'd be inundated with tea, sticky buns (whatever they are), smilies and god forbid...... chintz!
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Message 7
Posted by Sambista (U4068266) on Thursday, 27th January 2011
Better chintz than Cinzano, methinks.
I agree - apart from Family Trees (loads of genealogy sites out there already, so I'm told by those interested in it), the rest could go together fine. -
Message 8
Posted by Tas (U11050591) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Hi Paul and Priscilla,
Here is my two-cents worth: If the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ is having funding difficulties and our history board is in danger, then amalgamate the boards by all means. You know Paul, we have been through one amalgamation already. We had a 'What-if" board and others. Why not continue through in 'Ancient, Classical history' and the 'Wars board'? We could each work on the string of interest to us.
So go ahead Katy, if our history board is in danger then make the above proposal on our behalf. Just so long as we have an intelligent history board to come to to learn from and inform people.
On our side of the Pond, some of us like to remain engaged in English/British history and all history for that matter.
Quite objectively, you Brits have in the early 20th century created another one of your great institutions: the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ. Hope it will remain with us for a very long period. Its range is truly stupendous: from 'the Archers' to 'Anna Karenina,' from 'Mrs. Dale's Diary' to 'Pride and Prejudice'.
Our own Public TV is good but nowhere near as good as the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ and many programs it broadcasts are from the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ.
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Message 9
Posted by an ex-nordmann - it has ceased to exist (U3472955) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Redesigning the website in a manner which affects the end-user display and functionality but which does not reduce the data management load or the resources required to maintain and monitor the site will not save the host money.
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Message 10
Posted by Tas (U11050591) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Hi Paul Priscilla,
Another suggestion, if the Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ want to raise some funds, why do they not go slightly commercial. At least on this side of the Atlantic, we are used to having programing interrupted by commercials, and we do not mind. The result is that all our TV is free. Even in our Public TV there is a little bit about the sponsors of the program, and our Public TV is very good indeed.
Fortunately, during the State of the Union by the President of the United States they do not interrupt the program with commercials. Would it not be hilarious, if the President was saying, " We are going to take this country to a new frontier; the frontier being......" and the announcer interrupts,"Don't go away, as we give you this brief message from our sponsor", or "This country is going to see budget surpluses as far as the eye can follow. This year's surplus will be......" Announcer, "We will join the President after this brief commercial message."
Well, you got to love those sponsors for interrupting us at the most critical moment.
I can just imagine a commercial interrupting Her Majesty's speech to parliament, "My government will increase pensions..........." Announcer, "Don't go away! We will be back after this brief message."
If it was the times of King Henry VIII, the announcer would be hung, drawn and quartered.
Tas
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Message 11
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Re: Message 9.
Nordmann,
yes I was afraid that it would be the way you announced...
Kind regards and with esteem,
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Message 12
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Re: Message 10.
Tas, old friend,
"interrupting by commercial messages": shock horror...
My wife is "dedicated" to the commercial Dutch language TV here in Belgium. Each half hour in the mid of her "beloved" soaps some minutes "commercials". Last time I was in the US (some three years ago) looking to the TV channels in the hotel room it was really "abhorrent" (disgusting?). Each five minutes a commercial with "lies" in between what was really "light weight" television...on every channel...
I am not a "statist" (as Suvorovetz seems to call the Socialists), but on this subject I think the "State" has to play its role. An independent TV channel, which explains unbiased what's on in the country and in the world and respected by the political parties while they on mutual agreement want to have a channel free from party politics....
And for that I am prepared to pay a fee as perhaps the government too to save guard the "freedom of opinion" by independent reporters and for instance a "viewers" forum to nail the flaws into the public...and I hope I am not the only
one...
I guess it is a lot of wishful thinking, but I suppose it is "worth" to announce once my opinion...
Kind regards and with esteem,
Paul. -
Message 13
Posted by suvorovetz (U12273591) on Friday, 28th January 2011
I am not a "statist" (as Suvorovetz seems to call the Socialists), but on this subject I think the "State" has to play its role. An independent TV channel, which explains unbiased what's on in the country and in the world and respected by the political parties while they on mutual agreement want to have a channel free from party politics....Β
You're running into a contradiction of terms right away with this proposal, Paul. "An independent" immediately means state run, in other words state dependent. Do you think this "independent" channel will be "unbiased" and won't promote the state? I don't. And from what I've seen, it never is. -
Message 14
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Saturday, 29th January 2011
Re: Message 13.
Suvorovetz,
"You're running into a contradiction of terms right away with this proposal, Paul. "An independent" immediately means state run, in other words state dependent. Do you think this "independent" channel will be "unbiased" and won't promote the state? I don't. And from what I've seen, it never is."
I was aware of that. It was therefore that I said in my message 12: "I guess it is a lot of wishful thinking..."
I was thinking along the lines as for instance, if I remember it well, that the Japanese government has to provide an amount of money for each political candidate, who has a minimum of subscriptions, to secure any opposition party to emerge and to express it's free opinion (it dates perhaps still from Mac Arthur's laywers?)....and from that example: the state has to supply funds so that, under the guidance of the state, reporters can express their free opinion and in such a way that people, who think the information is biased, can also express their opinions and motivate them "rationally"...I suppose it could...and perhaps that is also "wishful thinking"...
Kind regards,
Paul. -
Message 15
Posted by suvorovetz (U12273591) on Sunday, 30th January 2011
I was thinking along the lines as for instance, if I remember it well, that the Japanese government has to provide an amount of money for each political candidate, who has a minimum of subscriptions, to secure any opposition party to emerge and to express it's free opinionΒ
Not to beat the dead horse to death, Paul, but I recall reading a few economists referring to Japan as one of stable crony capitalist models; Anthony Sutton interchanging that with the term "corporate socialism;" whereas both allude to a system, under which there is a symbiosis between chosen few - big, as a rule - players in the market and the government protecting the "chosen few" from competition. -
Message 16
Posted by PaulRyckier (U1753522) on Sunday, 30th January 2011
Re: Message 15.
OK, OK, Suv, I keep silent...
Kind regards from your friend Paul. -
Message 17
Posted by suvorovetz (U12273591) on Sunday, 30th January 2011
Kind regards from your friend Paul.Β
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