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Music for young 'uns?
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Message 1.Β
Posted by ukulelemaybe (U14200022) on Monday, 2nd November 2009
My sister has placed me in charge of my neices' (aged 7 and 9) musical education, and obvious I take this responsibility extremely seriously. However, I'm at a loss as to how to go about luring them away from High School Musical. Does anyone have any suggestions for music likely to appeal to pre-teens that might turn them into future 6music listeners? I gave them the They Might Be Giants album, No! when they were a bit younger, which seemed to go down reasonably well, but what to follow it up with?...
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Message 2
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Monday, 2nd November 2009
Tough one. You can't predict what they'll like. My eldest (8) has recently taken to Mary Hampton and TV On The Radio. And Warren Zevron. The middle one (6) is dead keen on SFA and "anything bangy". The both were very interested in Hendrix
I've found that they engage and listen to the music if they have a bit of background story to the artist - some pictures, what they were like as people, why you are interested in them. And of course there's all those youtube clips for them too, so they can see the music being performed.
The hardest thing is when they ask "what does this song mean?". Truth is, most rock lyrics are obtuse to the point of inpenetrable. Or about sex, death and booze. Tread carefully. -
Message 3
Posted by Ethalrocks (U10136879) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009
Hmm, I have a younger sister who is 15 years younger than me. What I used to do with her from the age of about 10 was lend to her a stack of 10 CDs every time I saw her which was every 6-8 weeks. Real mix of stuff, and then ask what she liked, what she didn't. Then next time I came I would bring another load and swap them. By the time she was 16 or 17 she had probably had the whole collection, some of them multiple times, some of them she had got about one track into and said "yuck" to. She liked some odd things, I couldn't really tell to be honest, and I did try to slip things back in if she said she hated them and I thought 'worthy' of a listen which worked to a point.
Was quite a fun ritual of going to her bedroom and going through the "ewwwwwww" and the "can I keep this one?" and the "hmm what have you bought here? Steps? Hmmm wondeful." et al.
I would actually not show the u-tube as ugly old rockers dont always go down well!
Only down side is when she suddenly went massivily into pop and boyband just when most of her friends where suddenly into all the stuff i had been sending her for years! ah well. Now she likes a huge range of stuff and i am just now really trying to get some two way traffic going so I get something interesting back for a change! -
Message 4
Posted by Bargeman (U1017072) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009
My own sproglet is a little older and will tend to automatically reject anything I like, I suppose that's the advantage of engaging an aunt or uncle.
She did quite like the beatles when younger.
Her favourites at present are Abba (the mamma mia movie effect) and some young folks called paramore (the twilight movie effect) and she's not averse to a bit of Madonna or Muse. Could be worse. We've managed to avoid the worst of the boybands/manufactured nonsense. -
Message 5
Posted by Billy__liar (U14191454) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009
School runs for me consist of Toy Dolls (did this band ever badly swear on records?)
they have so many songs the kid's love and those daft skits between songs make em laugh and me still.
Visually, playing Slade and giving the oldest the booklets to look at always gets a reaction.
The one the kids ask me for the most though is the Trainspotters "high rise" track which was a pretend punk band by Mike Read, the dj..and its based on his old jingle.."high rise,high rise, the neighbours are banging on the walls again"
"mike read , mike read , 275 and 285 - national radio 1" -
Message 6
Posted by Bargeman (U1017072) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009
When the sproglet was little she quite liked skunk anansie, but decided that really was rather inappropriate. Mind you she also used to dance to the hoover. She's doing very well at music at school so maybe we're all missing something.
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Message 7
Posted by MickShrimpton (U10147690) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009
You could do worse than start with 'Songs for the Young at Heart' by Stuart Staples (him from the Tindersticks) and assorted friends.
The usual air of doomed romanticism but applied to the theme from Mary, Mungo & Midge and other children's classics.
Works surprisingly well.
My 3 year old can't get enough of Ballboy's 'You Should Fall in Love With Me'. It's the fast bit (for dancing) followed by the slow bit (for swaying) followed by the fast bit again that seems to work. So that could be a template to follow.
Van Der Graaf Generator, as yet, drawing a blank. But I'll wear him down... -
Message 8
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009
Whuich reminds me - that VdGG CD you gave me is back to the top of the play pile, and needs to be given a spin.....
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Message 9
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009
And what do you know - my 8 yr old just asked what it was, and said he liked it!
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Message 10
Posted by MickShrimpton (U10147690) on Thursday, 5th November 2009
Excellent. So I've only got 4 years to wait until my first born and I can sit down together and discuss 'A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers'. Their mother will have left home by then of course, but what can you do?
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Message 11
Posted by PeteIsLegend (U10945656) on Thursday, 5th November 2009
My nephews (18 and 15) seem to have had a thing for my brother's 70s hard rock/metal collection (Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Iron Maiden etc). They have not followed his taste for the likes of the Bonzos.
I fear they may have got this taste from Guitar Hero (other musical instrument based computer games are available). Not that this is an indictment on any of those bands. I can't wait for the acoustic version - maybe that'll get the kids into Nick Drake? -
Message 12
Posted by tolhurst (U6377463) on Thursday, 5th November 2009
As mentioned on the show yesterday, The Monkees is a tuneful band with a zany sense of humour. A bit like Ant and Dec's sm:tv but without them singing "let's get ready to rumble".
Just as starting the youngsters off on Britney we now know is fraught with danger, along comes "Head".
Staying with the humorous and family-friendly, we can take the Seventies and look beyond the Wombles to the Goodies. Wasn't Bill Oddie one of the most successful songwriters of the decade? All the family can join in "the Cricklewood Shakedown" or "I'm a T. E. A. P. Ot".... -
Message 13
Posted by Billy__liar (U14191454) on Thursday, 5th November 2009
The Monkees tried and tested here too, their zany video clips arent lost on a 3 and 5 yr old either.
Had a Depeche Mode trial for a while but then The Saturdays came along and played tricks with the elder ones mind...("thats the crap one" id tell him)
The Slits new lp is getting a right banging at the moment...
favourite track?,,,,"Lazy Slam", thank goodness the kids dont know what its about (nor does Lamo i think, he played it on wednesday!)
"take me, dont wake me, just take me"
Seeing Ari Up describe the song live was even funnier..
Strangley another favourite is a track on the lp about being abused as a child...which contains the line
"ya father abuser, ya mother a user....are you....A LOOOOOOSEEEEERRR"
Unfortunately theres a fruity word on this track which i have to cough over every time Ari's about to say it.
great lp by the way. -
Message 14
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Thursday, 5th November 2009
It's like I said - when they ask what it means, that's when your work is cut out.
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Message 15
Posted by hank plankton (U4792100) on Friday, 6th November 2009
I've gotten my two (3&6) into The Who. They love a good leap around to Baba O Riley and Won't Get Fooled Again. In fact, my eldest is quite pleased with his 'Knock, knock','Who's there?','The','The who?' joke, except none of his little pals know what he's talking about.
Failing that, after a few bowls of Frosties I play them 'Song 2' - Blur, 'Do The Evolution' - Pearl Jam, and 'Killer Bee' - Beachbuggy, which get them bouncing off the walls. -
Message 16
Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Saturday, 7th November 2009
I don't have kids but I'd imagine that much of this good work with the really young will be undone as soon as they hit puberty and become the focus of the big machine. Moreover that's probably the point where they will automatically hate anything you like and vice versa. I still cringe if I'm playing something in the car that my 80+ mother says she thought was 'alright'.
Maybe you have to see where they all are musically in their mid twenties before you can see if they rediscover the good (or otherwise) grounding you give them earlier on, assuming of course you want them to have similar tastes to you. Sounds like fun though, one more reason to regret the decison not to procreate. -
Message 17
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Saturday, 7th November 2009
Mozo - you're a filthy cynic.
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Message 18
Posted by File-Under-Water (U13817253) on Monday, 9th November 2009
Bought "Third" by Soft Machine for 25p from the charity shop on Saturday. Immediately tried it out on the 6 and 9 year olds.
Didn't receive the warmest reception. -
Message 19
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Monday, 9th November 2009
Ha! I first heard Third when I was 17, whilst raiding my girlfriend's dad's vinyl collection. It took me 20 years to get arounnd to even liking it a tiny bit. Give them time.
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Message 20
Posted by RobWardale (U14209896) on Tuesday, 10th November 2009
Jonathan Richman has loads of funny childish songs. "I'm a little airplane", "Party in the woods" etc etc. And also has more velvet underground type stuff to get their teeth into. Maybe stay clear of 'I was dancing in a lesbian bar' until they get a bit older.
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Message 21
Posted by File-Under-Water (U13817253) on Tuesday, 10th November 2009
My boys love swearing. So Jeffrey Lewis singing the Crass song "Do they owe us a living?" at the End of the Road Festival a couple of years ago is a firm family favourite.
As are any of my attempts at fixing stuff that goes wrong at home. -
Message 22
Posted by Duggy_Giro (U14220771) on Tuesday, 17th November 2009
how about getting a bit of Syd Barrett whimsical childlike fantasy into their lives. Stuff like The Gnome, Matilda Mother and The Scarecrow from Pink Floyds Piper at the gates of dawn and maybe Octopus and Effervescing elephant from his later solo stuff.
Some beautiful, slightly haunting music with its heart very much rooted in childrens fairy tales
"There was a king who ruled the land
his majesty was in command
with silver eyes, the scarlet eagle
showered silver on the people
oh mother tell me more" -
Message 23
Posted by The_Alex (U1836907) on Wednesday, 9th December 2009
You'll Soon Discover by The Shins! It's from the Spongebob Squarepants soundtrack (I think) and it's brilliant. The same soundtrack also features Ween and Wilco.
How about some of the obvious songs like Octopus's Garden? There are quite a few Beatles songs that go down well with kids.
Tiger by The Hussy's is a good one too. Others...Danielson - Did You Step On My Trumpet? There are probably a few by Fountains of Wayne like I Want An Alien for Christmas. I think kids pick up on simple hooks or words they can relate to.
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