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Posted by gidarmy (U7627527) on Tuesday, 22nd April 2008
Hello,
Not sure about the rest of you but I'll be a lot more comfortable when I can find my springtime jacket but that apart I'm delighted to say that, as E. MacColl once wrote/sang, earlier today
"I smelled the spring on a smokey wind."
Or at least I sniffed a rose and started sneezing. With that in mind (sort of) on the next bank holiday May 5th we will be taking full advantage of yet another good idea from a listener (Steve in Birmingham) and liberally sprinkling the show with 5th tracks from 5th albums of any given band/artiste. Of course this goes against one of my theories that most bands should call it a day after 2 and half records. There are exceptions to this rule and there are 5th albums which delight in 5th tracks which are;-
a - good
b - rarely if ever played on the radio.
or
c - both of the above
So suggest away from here on and I'll get to compiling (or to be more accurate lump the majority of the leg-work onto someone else).
I know what you're thinking..Do live albums count as fifth albums when they are the fifth albums released?
When they're good - yes.
Over to you then....
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OH YES!
Can I kick things off with "Wasn't born to follow" by the Byrds?
My all time favourite byrds track EVER.
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And this is an ideal opportunity to give airtime to the the Butthole Surfers' version of "Hurdy Gurdy Man".
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And "Kings Lead Hat" by Eno.
Crikey, this is a lot better than putting together boring fencing quotes.
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And super furry animals - "Receptacle for the respectable" which is not only a banging track, but also my son's favourite song. Go on, play it for little Fred. He's only 4.
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Tom Waits - "Sight for sore eyes".
I realise I should have made a list and then done just one post - BUT I'M TOO EXCITED!!
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Fist, As an English teacher I thought I might try and help you out with some fencing quotes. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much limited to "En garde." and "Have at ye.". Sorry, old chap.
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That's the gag of the night so far. It probably won't be bettered.
Not if I have anything to do with it.
More please
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Er, 'foiled again by my rapier-like wit'?
I'm going to stop, because there all kinds of possibilities and nothing like a bad pun challenge to keep me from my marking.
Over to you, Fist...
Drew.
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Actually, Fist:
Othello Act 1, scene ii:
"Keep up your bright swords, for the dew will rust them"
Will this do?
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Okay, okay!
How about 'Asleep on a Sunbeam' from 'Dear Catastrophe Waitress' by Belle and Sebastian? (I'm not counting the 'Storytelling' film soundtrack as an album.)
Drew.
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'Verisimilitude' from 'Grand Prix' by the Fannies?
Things are looking slightly Caledonian, I admit.
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Talking of Gibby Haynes, how about Ministry's Psalm 69 and the fifth track just happens to be "Jesus built my hotrod" with GH on vocals?
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Darn you, Coe; darn you, Onan! So much for my marking...
Mrs Drujay is now suggesting Pixies 'Head on' from 'Trompe le Monde', and 'Sugar Ray' from 'Honey's Dead' by The Mary Chain.
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B*gger - chumbawamba's "Heaven/Hell" is rubbish - so that can't go on the list.
Good album, though, "Anarchy" - any chance we'll see the cover in Paint Box Jury one day, Gid? (chortle)
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Posted by Bad_Ambassador (U1206267) on Tuesday, 22nd April 2008
Blur's 'On Your Own' from 'Blur' is worthy of a mention, as is Pulp's 'Disco 2000', although it's not exactly suffering from a lack of exposure.
Richard Hawley would be 'Lady Solitude' from 'Lady's Bridge' and the quite brilliant Teenage Fanclub's 'Verisimilitude' from 'Grand Prix' would do no harm.
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Posted by Bad_Ambassador (U1206267) on Tuesday, 22nd April 2008
Oh, and Radiohead's 'I Might Be Wrong' from Amnesiac. Wonderful tune that.
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Drujay - I'll try those out on the customers. Alternatively, I'll tel them all the timber has gone to China. It worked last time.
Most of the bands I know and love seem to have imploded early, or to have lost their edge by album five.
Gid - how about 1st track, 1st album for new years day 2009?
Most acts putting out quality on their fifth album seem to get lots of airplay already, so don't meet one of Gid's critera.
On that note, Bowie's fifth album was Ziggy Stardust - track five "It ain't easy", which is superb, but then every track on the album is pretty much perfect.
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Vampire Blues - Neil Young (On The Beach)
Love Is Hell - Ryan Adams (Love Is Hell)
Outlaw Blues - Bob Dylan (Bringing It All Back Βι¶ΉΤΌΕΔ)
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Blonde redhead (who were excellent live last night) "Loved despite great faults" off of melody of certain damaged lemons
The cure off the Top , The beautiful "dressing up"
tough one though
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Bob Dylan's Outlaw Blues from Bringing It All Back 'Ome is a fine song, and I don't think I've ever heard it played on t'radio.
I'll be back with more when I've got time...probably
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Curse you Steve Swift!
Alright then, how about Nashville Parent from Lambchop's Nixon?
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Don't worry - two votes and it might get played. I've never heard it on the radio either.
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Exploited - "Really don't care"
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Posted by PeteIsLegend (U10945656) on Wednesday, 23rd April 2008
How about some controversy... Bright Eyes fifth album - "I'm wide awake it's morning" or "Digital ash from a digital urn"???
Either way, awesome tracks - "Train under water" or "Take it easy (love nothing)".
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Gid,
Generally I'm finding that most bands / artists are exhausted by the time they release their 5th album and that their best days are well and truly behind them
That said...
You've got to play the seminal "Even Men with Steel Hearts" from Half Man Half Biscuit's "Some Call It Godcore" album.
I search on for other tunes worth including. Don't hold your breath.
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I'd like to suggest 'Laser Beam' from 'Things We Lost In The Fire' by Low. Anyone who doesn't adore this band doesn't know what they're talking about. Hello Drujay.
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Posted by JustAScarecrow (U11731936) on Wednesday, 23rd April 2008
This is really difficult, but I'll give you my twopenn'orth:
Another Girl (Help!) - The Beatles
You Happy Puppet (Blind Man's Zoo) - 10,000 Maniacs
Back In The Fire (Heliocentric) - Paul Weller
Between My Legs (Release The Stars) - Rufus Wainwright
I await to be corrected along the lines of "But the first 10,000 Maniacs release was only an EP and not an LP..." and such. But be gentle with me, this is my first post on these boards.
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Posted by mancunianphilby (U11732243) on Wednesday, 23rd April 2008
how about a bit of throwing muses
red heaven would be the album...
the track... "stroll"
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Hey Fist
If 1974 Dime Store Novels Vol 1 is included in discography, does that means The Piano Has Been Drinking )(Not Me) is 5 of 5 of 5 of 5?
Foreign Affairs 1977
Small Change 1976
Nighthawks At The Diner 1976
Dime-Store Novels Vol. 1 1974
The Heart Of Saturday Night 1974
Closing Time 1973
Don't mind really, be good as ever to hear Tom
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Knerak - you may well be right. It's an art not a science, and I leave it to the solomon-like widom of the Gid (pbuh) to decide.
However, I would like to point out that The Piano has been drinking gets played on the radio all the time, whereas sight for sore eyes doesn't. And SFSE is a great track ona a so-so album, so maybe deserves an airing.
I've got another question - do we count greatest hits albums if they're one of the first five, or do we skip them?
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Posted by I am not an organiser etc (U11351618) on Wednesday, 23rd April 2008
I’ve take a slightly different tack as I also tend to agree that bands are pretty spent by the time they get to their fifth album – three seems to be about the limit. Although Scott Walker and Nick Cave are honourable exceptions (Long About Now and Mercy respectively in their solo careers).
I started with That's What I Call Music 5, but it was a song by Dead or Alive that I've no intention of tracking down.
The seminal series of particularly poor covers that is Top of the Pops Vol 5 offers My Sentimental Friend by Herman's Hermits (well it's the fifth track listed on the cover) - the original is worth a listen.
Motown Chartbusters Vol 5 leads to paydirt - The Four Tops, It's all in the Game. Levi Stubbs Tears indeed.
Similarly, Atlantic R&B Vol 5 produces You Don't Miss Your Water ('til the well runs dry) - William Bell. My pick if I were to have one.
Cafe del Mar Vol 5 produces Penelope (Tease Mix) by 4 Wings. Well - I like it.
Trojan Selecta Vol 5 brings Ride Your Donkey, The Tennors.
I'll stop now.
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Posted by davythelondoner (U11737215) on Wednesday, 23rd April 2008
My five are from China Crisis (celebrating Liverpool 2008)
A Golden Handshake form every daughter (Peel Session, 1983)
People I know lead fantastic lives (Peel Session 1982)
Christian (the 1982 single)
and any other 2 live tracks you can find of the band
davy
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Er, um, who's going to tell him?
Not me.
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Album 5/ Track 5 China Crisis
Diary of A Hollow Horse (from the eponymous album)
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Posted by MickShrimpton (U10147690) on Thursday, 24th April 2008
Progressive rock is clearly the answer here (although what the question is could be open to doubt).
Any self-respecting prog rock band would just be hitting its stride by album 5 with many more to come.
A little bit of research later - and a problem rears its head. When the first song takes up the whole of side one, there's never any time for a fifth track.
Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff - 4 tracks.
Yes - Close to the Edge - 3 tracks.
Best I can do is Genesis - Selling England by the Pound which gives us 'The Battle of Epping Forest' - not their finest 11 minutes.
So let's abandon the early 70s and go for the Tindersticks. It could be said they've produced pretty much the same record every time they've gone into the studio so you could pick any track. But 5th of the 5th is 'Sweet Release' off Can Our Love and it's very fine indeed.
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Posted by PeteIsLegend (U10945656) on Thursday, 24th April 2008
Possibly the shortest 5th track on a 5th album...
Modest Mouse's "Dig Your Grave" is a full 12 seconds on "Good News for People Who Love Bad News". Perhaps you could play that along with the following "Bury me with it"?
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Very difficult, indeed..
How about Too Far Down from Husker Du's Candy Apple Grey?
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If we ignore "Gotta let this Hen out", Robyn Hitchcock's fifth (solo-ish) album is Groovy Decay, and the Track is the wonderful "America".
If we count the live album, then it would be the live version of "My Wife and My Dead Wife", which is the best post-war song in English about a menage-a-trois involving two living and one deceased persons.
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Posted by frenchpolisher72 (U11040377) on Thursday, 24th April 2008
In no particular order:
The Cure - Dressing Up from The Top
Sonic Youth - Pipeline / Killtime from Sister
Throwing Muses - Golden Thing from The Real Ramona
Small Faces - Call It Something Nice from The Autumn Stone
Dinosaur Jr - Not The Same from Where You Been
American Music Club - Crabwalk from Everclear
Red House Painters - Trailways from Songs For A Blue Guitar
The The - The Beat(en) Generation from Mind Bomb
That should do for starters.
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Posted by thegreatgalah (U11243211) on Thursday, 24th April 2008
'Major Leagues' by Pavement is a lovely ditty.
The Mary Chain's 'Sugar Ray' is a bit of a stomper...although you'd have to include the 'Barbed Wire Kisses' compilation as one of the first 4 albums. I don't own 'Stoned & Dethroned' so I can't comment on track 5 from that one...
Sadly The Fall's 'Mere Pseud Mag. Ed' doesn't really work outside the context of 'Hex...' as a whole. Well - not in my opinion anyway.
As for Copey - well 'Out of My Mind on Dope & Speed' (from erstwhile fanclub-only release 'Skellington') or 'Hanging Out & Hung Up on the Line' (from 'Peggy Suicide' - his fifth 'general release' LP) would both be chuffin' champion! I couldn't possibly arbitrate on this one though...over to you, Gid...
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Immediately thought of "Cracked Actor" by David Bowie from his album "Aladdin Sane" - ahh the sound of Ronno's guitar crunch at full volume....never heard it on the radio!!
This album was regarded as "Bowie's fifth album" behind "Space Oddity", "The Man who sold the world", "Hunky Dory" and "Ziggy Stardust".....so I hope for this exercise you will ignore the dodgy debut album of the sixties or the various live bootlegs and bbc outtakes that have since emerged.
Carl in Harrogate
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Five for 05/05.......
'Kingdom of the Blind'-The Men They Couldn't Hang (from: 'The Domino Club')
'If I handle you with care'-Trembling Blue Stars (The Seven Autumn Flowers)
'Shakespeare's Sister'-The Smiths ('The World Won't Listen')
Deep House Victims Minibus Appeal-Half Man Half Biscuit ('Voyage to the bottom of the Road')
'Casual Match'-Suzanne Vega ('Nine Objects of Desire')
The Smiths one may be a bit tenuous. It's strictly their fifth album release, although it's obviously a compilation album.....
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Posted by peppermintpatti (U1472081) on Wednesday, 30th April 2008
Ummm, this is hard, do you include long eps, plus what about the odd first album recorded on cassette? (which is probably why you've some different song choices for the same artist)
Anyway here goes, and apologise for any errors or repetition:
You're No Rock N' Roll Fun - Sleater Kinney
from All Hands On The Bad One
No Bad News - Bonnie "Prince" Billy -
from The Letting Go
SRB - Kristin Hersh -
from the Grotto
Now you've 2 choices for Patti Smith
do you take it from the vinyl or the CD release?
from DREAM OF LIFE do you go for:
"Dream of Life"
"Where Duty Calls" ?
Look Up! - Mirah
from C'mon Miracle.
Would be great to hear more Mirah on 6 Music
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Posted by peppermintpatti (U1472081) on Wednesday, 30th April 2008
The Itchy Glowbo Blow - Cocteu Twins
from Blue Bell Knoll
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Can't have a list without:
UK Subs - Fear of girls from Endangered Species
The Damned - The Dog from Strawberries
Buzzcocks - Point of no return from All Set
Stranglers - Baroque Borello from The Raven
New Order - All the way from Technique
Controversial in places but...
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How about
Eels - Shootannay - Dirty Girl
Beck - Sea Changes -Lost Cause
Pavement - Terror Twilight - Major Leagues
Gang 0f Four - Shrinkwrapped - Better him than me
I'd forgottten about the last one, until I looked on google. Not their best Album, but track 5 comes up trumps.
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Some more:
Elliot Smith - Everything Means Nothing to Me (Figure 8)
Wilco - Hummingbird (A Ghost is Born)
Graham Coxon - All Over Me (Happiness in Magazines)
Toots and The Maytals - Redemption Song (Funky Kingston)
Apologies for any duplications
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Here be my choices:
It's probably already been said but Hate And War from the first Clash album is a good 'un
Where The Wild Roses Grow from Nick Cave's Murder Ballads
The Man With The Child In His Eyes from Kate Bush's The Kick Inside
Public Image from the first Public Image album
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Posted by cosmicspacehopper (U10393329) on Friday, 2nd May 2008
Um, strong candidates so far. Few more for the pot:
'Strange' REM Document
'I get wild/wild gravity' Talking Heads Speaking in Tongues
'Little Ghost' The White Stripes Get Behind Me Satan
'Wig' The B52's Bouncing off the Satellites
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