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A bit of Jangle?
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Message 1.Β
Posted by Valour Gull (U1637480) on Tuesday, 5th February 2008
With all this talk of 'Screamadelica' or whatever the monstrosity is called, it's time to revive my request for some mid-80s Primal Scream ie a Primal Scream recording from when they were good.
After what was, quite frankly, a turgid Style Council set last evening, some jangle was the antidote, only half-administered in Bricolage form.
Anyway, I'm sure the other duffers liked it. -
Message 2
Posted by gidarmy (U7627527) on Tuesday, 5th February 2008
Perhaps Long Hot Summer went on a bit. But they used to in those days. I'm fond of their work, though I know there are detractors and the Bricolage was there, as you correctly detect, to act as antidote/buffer.
How I'll do that when we play Then Jerico is less clear.
And yes, Primal Scream early doors jangle is very much in order. (sweeping generalisation incoming) Bands are generally at their best early on. Discuss.
Keep rocking
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Message 3
Posted by laurencea (U4486044) on Tuesday, 5th February 2008
i saw Primal Scream in full jangle mode... opening for Peter Astor (was meant to be a Loft set, but some of the band were unavailable - long story) in a basement in Woolwich. it was midsummer's day 1985. First song in and Bobby G is trying to be rock star and bangs the microphone stand up and down... causing to to fall apart. cue long wait for the second song as he has to reassemble it. he didn't do it again for the rest of the set.
that was the first time i saw them... and despite having a man who played tambourine whilst wearing a 'bank robber' stylee hankerchief/mask across his face... i was quite impressed by their jangle.
meanwhile, my friend was at Milton Keynes' bowl watching r.e.m. (along with the Ramones and the Faith Brothers) open for U2. -
Message 4
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Wednesday, 6th February 2008
I saw Primal Scream in 1989, about 20 seconds before their dance conversion.
But I passed out from over-indulgence, half way through their first number, and remained in that blissful state until my friends lovingly kicked me awake as the house lights went up.
So if you've got any old style, black leather rockin' PS material, Gid, I too would love to hear it. -
Message 5
Posted by adthedoor (U6790770) on Thursday, 7th February 2008
Saw Primal Scream when they were the Byrds, when they were Led Zeppelin, when they were dancy and when they were the Rolling Stones. The first incarnation was by far my favourite and barely a week goes past when I'm not dipping into the first album.
Saw them in full jangly mode supported by Loop, also in their early glory days. One of the best gigs of my life.
Would love to hear from both, Mr Coe, if you can manage it? There are a couple of fine Loop sessions around. -
Message 6
Posted by andysunshine (U11089167) on Monday, 18th February 2008
Yes, I loved t'Scream's jangly days, but Accelerator was fantastic and blew me away!
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Message 7
Posted by Valour Gull (U1637480) on Monday, 18th February 2008
'All Fall Down' can't be topped, I'm afraid.
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Message 8
Posted by jasonaparkes (U3653332) on Thursday, 28th February 2008
I saw Primal Scream in their MC5-era, well I say MC5, but that's an insult to the MC5, even the cabaret version of the MC5 that gigs to this day (...quite good when they let Mark Arm sing...). I thought Primal Scream were worse on record and live than those Soup Dragons, who people always slated as the Scream were revered. Both Primal Scream and Sonic Flower Groove are shockingly bad records, reminding me that the Mighty Lemon Drops were better! Velocity Girl is jolly good, have All Fall Down on Doing It For the Kids, but it's blown out of the water by Christine and Ballad of the Band...
Saw PS later on during the ecstasy-era...terrible. They were great in Birmingham on the Vanishing Point tour as they were kind of Krautrocky...saw them a few years ago, all the new stuff was dire , but the stuff from VP/Xtrmtr was fine. Strange band, not sure why everyone gets so excited...
Screamadelica is the Sgt Pepper of its age - culturally pertinent, but mostly terrible. They even left off the best mix of Come Together! It sounds as dated as The Orb, less exciting than Every Man & Woman is a Star by Ultramarine, and too indebted to Psychic TV's Godstar/Towards Thee Infinite Beat and AR Kane's eclectic I double LP. No one goes on about them though... -
Message 9
Posted by adthedoor (U6790770) on Friday, 7th March 2008
If Sonic Flower Groove was a shockingly bad record, I wish to God more people were making shockingly bad records.
It's a world above the endearing but shaky Creation singles, and a universe above most of their other stuff.
Mighty Lemon Drops were a fine band too, but you never hear much mention these days of the awesome Family Cat. Steamroller - surely one of the greatest lost singles? -
Message 10
Posted by Valour Gull (U1637480) on Friday, 7th March 2008
Oh yeah, I turned that bit of Thursday's show off.
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Message 11
Posted by Cyril Benson in Penrith (U2611279) on Friday, 7th March 2008
THE FAMILY CAT!! Oh yesh. I have all 3 albums, and a good number of 12s including 1992's "Steamroller". And a T shirt! which reads "The Family Cat - All Other Bands Are D0g5h1te". Saw them live twice. Happy days... Did Gid play them?
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Message 12
Posted by Valour Gull (U1637480) on Wednesday, 12th March 2008
Gee, thanks, DJ Coe.
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Message 13
Posted by steve_swift (U2177659) on Friday, 14th March 2008
The Whigs do 21C jangle
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Message 14
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Sunday, 16th March 2008
Thanks for the Whigs link!
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Message 15
Posted by steve_swift (U2177659) on Sunday, 16th March 2008
In which case I urge you to listen to the My Morning Jacket SXSW gig - also on the same site and at which The Whigs were supporting.
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Message 16
Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Wednesday, 19th March 2008
Y'know, I did JUST THAT, and I had a most enjoyable time. Thanks!
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Message 17
Posted by U11265933 (U11265933) on Thursday, 27th March 2008
Think the first rule of jangle is that it must come from Glasgow. Would go for 'Splashing Along' by Jesse Garon and The Desperadoes as the jangliest of jangle tunes. Remember 'spinning about' to this in a certain, dark, Nottingham nightclub back in the Eighties.
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Message 18
Posted by steve_swift (U2177659) on Thursday, 27th March 2008
The Whigs on Letterman, complete with Neil Young axe moves - doesn't get much better
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