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Welcome to the Big Fat Newsnight Politics Page

  • Peter Barron
  • 10 Oct 07, 06:36 PM

You know how it is - you do a whole lot of work with one aim in mind and then circumstances change. Do you junk it or go with it anyway? If that's possibly how Alistair Darling felt this week we at Newsnight second that emotion.

In anticipation of a snap election our web boys had been frantically busy on what was to have been called The Big Fat Newsnight Election Website. The idea was simple. We know that many of our website devotees are also big consumers of other political sites and blogs.

Our aim was to provide the ultimate, must-bookmark, one-stop election shop where those of a psephological persuasion could wallow happily for hours. Sadly some of our planned election wares will never see the light of day, but here we present a slightly slimmed down .

Let us know what you'd like to see here, or send us a link. The fatter the better.

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  • 1.
  • At 08:41 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • NormanTomlinson wrote:

I think it's absolutely brilliant!

As David Cameron told Gordon Brown at PMQs ... you've wanted this 'Top Job' for 10 years ...... I think for Gordon Brown.... NOT TO CALL .. a General Election .. shows that he's running scared and the Tories have him on the back foot !

In order to have his own mandate.. Gordon Brown .. MUST .. call a General Election and if the British people 'kick him out' .. then so be it!

"What ever will be .. will be"

.....


  • 2.
  • At 10:48 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • EHylan wrote:

Norman, I hate to be the one to point out how highly delusional you are. Your perception on the situation lacks truth.

Cameron's policies are hollow and unsuitable for the country- Gordon Brown has far more potential than Cameron ever could; give him his time to shine for this country.

And can I ask, what impression does seeing that argument in the commons give to a 14 year old child?

I rest my case.

  • 3.
  • At 10:51 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • Pete Wilson wrote:

Pete
This is a good start, but where's your tag cloud? And how often is the Editor of Newsnight going to post on the home page? What a great news day to launch on .... good luck!

  • 4.
  • At 10:53 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • Colin wrote:

this is a pointless as when you post anything on the state run beeb it is not published.

I no this as I have been trying to point out to the public that there is a firewall at the home office standing in the way of justice for those who were sexualy abused in state intitutions throughout the 60's 70's and 80, lets get to grips with that if the mantra of the social policies for the mentally ill people of this country..

  • 5.
  • At 10:59 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • Jonty wrote:

Yet another fake tv exercise

  • 6.
  • At 11:02 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • colin twyning wrote:

i saw big fat newsnight advertised on newsnight by JP, so why was it so difficult to find on the ΒιΆΉΤΌΕΔ news pages. i put in above 3 word title and al i got was fat stories:(
I found it within seconds on google!
i hope the content is not as difficult to access.
PS does it really need such a silly title, what next, Paxos` dogz bollox

  • 7.
  • At 11:45 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • sibfordblogger wrote:

your political feed on MP's lying and who is sovereign. I am unsure your correspondent is correct in a legal constitutional sense although he may be in a moral day to day usage kind of way. Surely, the Queen is sovereign in Parliament and exercises power through her Prime Minister. He can discipline but operates through Standing Orders and procedural rules and motions. I doubt in a legal sense that the British elector has any actual power or Right. We use the terminology because it sounds right and happens to be the case in the USA; some say we are the 53rd State,
(isn't it)!. Whether we should is another question altogether. Perhaps I've got it wrong!

  • 8.
  • At 11:51 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • Jack R wrote:

This site is already a source of some very interesting material; if 'Newsnight' can break free of the rest of the ΒιΆΉΤΌΕΔ's strait-jacketed, political corectness, it should be OK.

  • 9.
  • At 11:59 PM on 10 Oct 2007,
  • neil robertson wrote:

'Election contests should be avoided until our people are equipped to give a good account of themselves. This applies to ALL elections.'

'It will be necessary to wait until a basis has been laid on local work to give SUBSTANTIAL support in the first attempt. The timing of this decision to be a policy matter and not one of principle.'

Were these the thoughts of Gordon on 'Brown Trouser Saturday' as he dashed off to a meeting calling for early elections (in Rangoon) while shutting his ears to those opinion pollsters telling him he might win?

Of course not! This is in fact a quote from the IRA's Army Council document published by Lord Justice Scarman back in 1969 - a few weeks before tonight's studio guest Roy
Hattersley sent troops to Belfast!

  • 10.
  • At 12:37 AM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

I LOVE the Big Fat Politics Page! What an absolutely brilliant idea - especially the quote of the day "There was a young man named Ed" :-)! I particularly love the video interviews/reports too.

  • 11.
  • At 11:35 AM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • Bill Duncan wrote:

I am neither a fan of Gordon Brown or David Cameron. Gordon Brown's recent troubles have been of his own making. However, yesterday at question time, David Cameron's savaging of the prime minister came close to a personal attack on him. Watching him in full flow, with the Torry pack baying for blood behind him, reminded me very much of the old Torry party. Arrogant, boorish and bullying, just like they were when in power. Cameron did himself no favours yesterday and I think many of the electorate will aggree. They allowed their cloak of change to slip badly yesterday.

  • 12.
  • At 01:26 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • Doreen Richards wrote:

What planet is Roy Hattersley on saying that we are not interested in the thrashing that David Cameron gave Gordon Brown at P.M.Q.s
I was delighted after 10 years of an inadequate opposition party at last they are fighting back.
I am one of the many who are still angry at the farcical Hutton Enquiry I

  • 13.
  • At 01:30 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • j ettridge wrote:

Brown has absolutely no idea how to run this country.He is the only person the old,new,anything will do Labour[?]Party could find to follow the other loser.He brings despair to hope with a degree of prudence. His song is the same as Bliar's, available at Three Horse Corner for a very short period only! All you need to do is tap in Three Horse corner it will take you to the song immediately.Please feel free to comment if you think this song does not reflect the REAL TRUTH!
It's the disc that spins, not the word or have you forgotten that?.

  • 14.
  • At 01:32 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • shella wrote:

Whatever politics we have should be based on DEMOCRACY not what we have, an elected dictatorship. The media can set up whatever it wants, and try and force an election, to fit its own agenda ie keeping their jobs - that does not make our system democratic - simply a propaganda battle!

First past the post means voting is more like betting on a horse, than electing a parliament. That is basically wrong and the height of hypocrisy. How can we possibly tell a country like Burma, to be democratic when we have this shambles of a semi-democratic system ourselves. Why should a government be elected on a minority vote in marginal seats, instead of the majority vote in the majority of seats. It means that once a government is elected it takes a massive turnabout to get them out! Does no-one else find this a complete absurdity?

The low vote turnout surely reflects this popular feeling that they are not taking part in a democratic process. To consider forcing people to take part in this farce, IS tantamount to STALINISM.

  • 15.
  • At 02:13 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

Dunlane? Lord Robertson??? 100 year D-Notice put in place by Jack Straw.. Gun licenses,, FBI files Operation Ore???? = SILENCE Nuff Said

  • 16.
  • At 02:16 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • Densie wrote:

Jail a Politician? and or Media Groups considering the beeb is attempting to side barr the way they have also and continue to behave.
Would the "new politics" gain a welcome boost if politicians could be prosecuted for telling lies? or could the public refuse to pay their licence fee to a semi commercial sudo-political media group who tell lies and extort monies from the public???

  • 17.
  • At 03:07 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • Michael McManus wrote:

Sent this email to David Camerons Secretary yesterday, Dear Caroline, A number of questions for David to ask at Prime minister question time, When is this Government make Social Services Answerable FOR CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN WHO ARE OR HAVE BEEN IN THEIR CARE, OR WHO THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING, But have let people abuse and kill them, Read Pin Down by Teresa Cooper and explain to me why no one has been charged, With willful neglect or rape of a young girl, There was a documentry in 1980 that high lighted drug abuse on young girls and it got worse after it was ignored by the government, Sir George Young could have stopped what was happening but chose not to why?

  • 18.
  • At 05:18 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • Bedd Gelert wrote:

David, Never mind the 'Tag Cloud', I would be eternally grateful if anyone could explain what an earth an RSS feed is, how it works, and more importantly, why on earth would you want one ?

  • 19.
  • At 05:48 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • Steve Liander wrote:

Definitions of RSS feed on the Web:

Really Simple Syndication is a popular technology for notifying users of updates to content in a website, blog, or Internet TV channel.
studio.brightcove.com/library/help/glossary_help.cfm

  • 20.
  • At 06:56 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • missmiba wrote:

uk savers compensation protection. savers' compensation is 100% in all other major economies. why why not in uk?

  • 21.
  • At 07:42 PM on 11 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

I got as big a laugh out of Jeremy happily "linking away",in his shirtsleeves, as all of the latest Bremner Bird and Fortune!..Is he really a convert?
I honestly did think it was a joke..
In fact the last time i laughed so loud at the end of NewsNight, was when Paxo described the podcast as "television without the pictures"
or something,as part of a withering put down of the "my NewsNight" interactive stuff...ha bloody ha!
chris morrell

  • 22.
  • At 12:32 AM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • Johnathan Pope wrote:

Jp tying to bring some honesty to the beeb is like Andrew Neil cosying up to Portilo and Abbot (If only she knew the truth) and pretending they are being topical,
when all the time they hate the bones of each other!!! Or do they hmmmn or paralled with at least as rife with comedy of ello ello or that of bremner Bird & Fortune but with all the substance of your average episode of the simpsons read um and weep. political pundits stink..

  • 23.
  • At 01:29 AM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • Konrad Black wrote:

I think Roy Hattersly was quite funny.

Wasn't he one of the the main reasons, Labour were unelectable for nearly 20 years?

Keep talking Roy, the Tories need you.

  • 24.
  • At 03:40 PM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • Stephen Bulfield wrote:

I hope like me you are keeping an eye on the Downing St e-petition asking for an election before the end of the year which the PM, in PMQs, said only had 26 signatories. It now has over 10,000 (but not as many as the one proposing Jeremy Clarkson as PM - 19,8000).

Its quite hard to find: go to

  • 25.
  • At 03:48 PM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • Stephen Bulfield wrote:

I hope like me you are keeping an eye on the Downing St e-petition asking for an election before the end of the year which the PM, in PMQs, said only had 26 signatories. It now has over 10,000 (but not as many as the one proposing Jeremy Clarkson as PM - 19,800).

Its quite hard to find: go to

  • 26.
  • At 09:09 PM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • Axel-Ivan Lagerborg wrote:

This BIG FAT NEWSNIGHT is absolutely brilliant.!!!

Finally I can read opinions by people that do not think the reader is an absolute imbecile!
With thanks and kind regareds to all of you contributors.
A-I

  • 27.
  • At 11:20 PM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • helen (cardiff) wrote:


On the Jeremey Pax' show (newsnight) - collumists from The Guardian and The times provide impartial comment??????????????????

  • 28.
  • At 11:51 PM on 12 Oct 2007,
  • helen (cardiff) wrote:


On the Jeremey Pax' show (newsnight) - collumists from The Guardian and The times provide impartial comment??????????????????

  • 29.
  • At 12:39 PM on 14 Oct 2007,
  • Sigmund Fraud wrote:

JP 4 PM at least he wouldn't be as bad as people who wanted to become politicians, We used to have a house of commons where the common man could fight back against the treatment metered out by the other place (House of Lords)now its so full of barristers and other legal people. and the public wonder why there has been so many new laws that appear to protect the nation when the realty is most if not all of the new laws serve the neads of the government over the people.

Get the law and the politics back behind their fences as they must never mix....

  • 30.
  • At 02:09 PM on 15 Oct 2007,
  • Josh Pollin wrote:

Unwarranted arrest, many attempts to bring about a 90 day detention without trial, β€œExtraodinary rendition's”, the dropping of habeas corpus, Quo warranto, even outlawed practices like torture and inhuman treatments to gain some sort of confession to a terrorist act in a situation where it is likely the person who is being tortured will tell you anything you want to know many things you don't, or things they don't know themselves just to stop the torture.

So we learn that it is people being tortured because of the lack of intelligence both strategically and mentally throughout the Bush, Blair, Cheney camp. "hoot hoot" ΒιΆΉΤΌΕΔ.

Jack Straw left the ΒιΆΉΤΌΕΔ Office in 2001 or so it would be believed! except he's still there as head of the new Ministry of Justice.

Has anyone thought yet that Jack (The demon headmaster) Straw seems to be still in the perfect position to be the gate keeper of the Blair legacy and holds an iron grip upon the home office every bit as tight as he does on the secrets of Dunblane who would have thought such things possible?


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